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Monist



Joined: 05 Nov 2009
Location: Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:04 pm    Post subject: Proof of graduation? Reply with quote

Here's the sitch: I'm currently finishing up my BA, set to graduate at the end of the month. There's about a one-month turnaround to get my diploma in my hands, so would the consulate accept some other official proof of graduation from the university, like a notarized letter or something?

(I know this might be a common sense question, but just call me a n00b and humor me, 'kay? Thanks.)
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aweitzm1



Joined: 23 Mar 2010
Location: Florida

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe you need your diploma.
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Darkeru



Joined: 21 Apr 2010
Location: England

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the case of my application for SMOE, I've sent them a current transcript, which they said was fine for the time being. I don't get my actual transcript until July and my diploma until September (after I'll leave the country) and they said it's fine. I assume there's some way around needing the actual diploma because of this, but it might still need the transcript.
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probablylauren



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in a similar situation.

My recruiter simply said that a Letter of Expected Graduation was all that I needed (different universities would call it different things). It was a letter saying that I'm enrolled in my degrees and that I am expected to graduate in December

As it turns out, my graduation ceremony was a day before i finalised another document I needed, so I just posted off my degree.
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Oliver



Joined: 19 Apr 2008
Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Proof of graduation? Reply with quote

Monist wrote:
Here's the sitch: I'm currently finishing up my BA, set to graduate at the end of the month. There's about a one-month turnaround to get my diploma in my hands, so would the consulate accept some other official proof of graduation from the university, like a notarized letter or something?

(I know this might be a common sense question, but just call me a n00b and humor me, 'kay? Thanks.)


I very much doubt it. I think immigration require a degree. Infact I dont think there is any other kind of proof that you graduated other than a degree.

That's the official paperwork.

So, in short, I don't think so.
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probablylauren



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh I forgot about immigration.

The letter for proof of (expected) graduation was acceptable for your recruiter and SMOE. The whole recruitment process was around the September/November area, and my visa process wasn't until January.

The letter is not acceptable for immigration imo, but is okay for recruiting, you just need to post the degree afterwards, in order to get the visa
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is possible to get a letter of certification of graduation of some sort from your University, get that letter notarized and apostilled and submit it in lieu of your actual diploma along with your transcripts and other documents.

There have been several reports of this process being used for hogwans, although if you go to an Immigration office unfamiliar with this process there could still be difficulties.

It doesn't hurt to try. You can always resubmit docs later with your diploma when issued if it doesn't work.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ontheway wrote:
It is possible to get a letter of certification of graduation of some sort from your University, get that letter notarized and apostilled and submit it in lieu of your actual diploma along with your transcripts and other documents.

There have been several reports of this process being used for hogwans, although if you go to an Immigration office unfamiliar with this process there could still be difficulties.

It doesn't hurt to try. You can always resubmit docs later with your diploma when issued if it doesn't work.


Yes, you can do that.

Get the job, come over on a tourist stamp, work illegally for up to 90 days (with all the attendant risks), get your diploma, make your visa run and then be legal.

Bottom line was that the E2 was not issued until immigration had the parchment (or apostilled copy of same) in their hot little hands.

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elltotheoh



Joined: 31 May 2010
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I graduated in May but still have not received my diploma. My recruiter had me request a notarized letter from the university certifying that I had graduated, and then I had to have the letter apostilled. It seems to have worked so far -- I got my visa number a week and a half ago. I'm on my way to Atlanta on Tuesday for my E-2 interview at the consulate, hopefully I won't encounter any trouble there. My degree is also posted on the transcripts I sent the consulate last week.
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Chambertin



Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Location: Gunsan

PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing is legal until you have the E-2 attached to your passport. Dont buy a plane ticket, and for the love of [your deity of choice here] dont show up in Korea until after you have the E-2 properly affixed and in your Hand.

There are many ways to start the process and hope all works out by the time your diploma really gets to the consulate. Still its not complete until you get the E-2 attached to the passport.

Dont be hopeful, and dont get fooled.
Working on the tourist visa can work, but will mess up things with your duration of stay and the contract.
Better safe than sorry, there are many jobs out there. Worth the wait to me.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
ontheway wrote:
It is possible to get a letter of certification of graduation of some sort from your University, get that letter notarized and apostilled and submit it in lieu of your actual diploma along with your transcripts and other documents.

There have been several reports of this process being used for hogwans, although if you go to an Immigration office unfamiliar with this process there could still be difficulties.

It doesn't hurt to try. You can always resubmit docs later with your diploma when issued if it doesn't work.


Yes, you can do that.

Get the job, come over on a tourist stamp, work illegally for up to 90 days (with all the attendant risks), get your diploma, make your visa run and then be legal.

Bottom line was that the E2 was not issued until immigration had the parchment (or apostilled copy of same) in their hot little hands.

.



This is no longer the case. It is not a matter of working illegally and making a visa run.

Teachers can get an E2 visa and never provide the actual diploma nor an apostilled copy. Teachers who have lost their diplomas can substitute the apostiled letter.

To wit:
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:14 pm Post subject:

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I graduated in May but still have not received my diploma. My recruiter had me request a notarized letter from the university certifying that I had graduated, and then I had to have the letter apostilled. It seems to have worked so far --

I got my visa number a week and a half ago. I'm on my way to Atlanta on Tuesday for my E-2 interview at the consulate,

hopefully I won't encounter any trouble there. My degree is also posted on the transcripts I sent the consulate last week.



This teacher has an actual E2 with only an apostiled letter. I was surprised about this apparent change in Immigration policy. It seems fair, but it may end up being rescinded if it is overused.
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