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goesslry
Joined: 19 Jun 2007
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 Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:09 pm Post subject: F5 vs. Korean Citizenship |
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Ok, so I know the F2 vs. F5 is going on, but what about the F5 (or F2-1) vs. citizenship. Soon, foreigners married to koreans are able to gain Korean citizenship (along with talented foreigners contributing to korean society). What's the difference? Is there anything better?
Here is what I have found:
Can vote in ALL elections
Own your own citizenship (rather than spouse sponsoring)
Can run for office
Anything Else? |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:23 pm Post subject: Re: F5 vs. Korean Citizenship |
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| goesslry wrote: |
Ok, so I know the F2 vs. F5 is going on, but what about the F5 (or F2-1) vs. citizenship. Soon, foreigners married to koreans are able to gain Korean citizenship (along with talented foreigners contributing to korean society). What's the difference? Is there anything better?
Here is what I have found:
Can vote in ALL elections
Own your own citizenship (rather than spouse sponsoring)
Can run for office
Anything Else? |
F-5 does not require wife sponsorship. |
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goesslry
Joined: 19 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| yes, i know that. I want to compare versus Korean citizenship, since some foreigners are able to get next year. |
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Richard Krainium
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| I have an F-5. I would never give up my US citizenship for Korean citizenship unless it came with a check for 1 billion won. |
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goesslry
Joined: 19 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| that's the cool thing though. You can have the dual citizenship. The US just doesn't recognize it. You still keep your US citizenship (not sure about other countries) |
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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| goesslry wrote: |
| yes, i know that. I want to compare versus Korean citizenship, since some foreigners are able to get next year. |
Compared to citizenship there is no change. An F5 doesn't need a sponsor.
F5s can also run for local office.
You get an actual citizen number with citizenship I assume.
You could pass on Korean citizenship to a child (if you weren't married to a Korean for example and got your F5 another way)
It couldn't expire no matter how long you were out of the country
I'm sure there is a whole host of laws and little things that might be open to you. Technically there are some jobs an F5 can't do, but frankly I don't think anyone would want to do them. |
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Konglishman
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:44 am Post subject: |
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| goesslry wrote: |
| that's the cool thing though. You can have the dual citizenship. The US just doesn't recognize it. You still keep your US citizenship (not sure about other countries) |
Actually, the USA does recognize dual citizenship although until relatively recently, that was not true. The thing is that when you get another citizenship, you have to be careful not to do anything that shows intent to give up your US citizenship unless of course, that is what you want. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:59 am Post subject: |
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| I'm applied for an F-5, but don't plan on going the citizenship route. It's a little too drastic for my taste. As long as I can have permanent residency here, I figure it isn't worth going all the way. |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:41 am Post subject: |
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| F-5 visa holders can only vote in local elections, not national elections. |
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IlIlNine
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:47 am Post subject: |
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With Korean citizenship, you have to give up benefits that come with being a foreigner. Can't think of any?
How about (just off the top of my head):
- Favorable taxation
- Access to international schools
- No military obligation for your kids
In exchange, what exactly do you really get over an F5? Vote in national elections? Run for office? Increased employment opportunities (ie. gov't organizations that require citizenship).
It's not such a clear-cut choice! |
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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:59 am Post subject: |
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- Favorable taxation
- Access to international schools
- No military obligation for your kids |
Do you have any evidence of any of those things?
Do you know any international schools that would deny your kid entrance because you have a korean passport? You still have your foreign passport.
Favorable taxation ended last year. There was a big article about it.
The military obligation is based on appearance of your kid. Not your citizenship. The reason they get out is because they don't look Korean, not because they aren't Korean. They can still volunteer, but they're not required to go. |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:05 am Post subject: |
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I agree it's not a clear cut choice and it certainly isn't for everyone.
As for your list,
- Favorable taxation
*Won't effect me as we own our business and taxes won't change.
- Access to international schools
*Son goes to public school and we are fine with that.
- No military obligation for your kids
*Son's obligation for military service is not effected by me having dual citizenship or not. It is dependent on his citizenship alone. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:55 am Post subject: |
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TJ,
Good point about it not being a clear cut choice. The nice thing is, unless the laws change, we always have the option of changing our status later. |
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goesslry
Joined: 19 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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I also have applied for my F5, and should get next month. Sounds like there aren't any differences (couldn't find much in my research also).
Thanks all. IF you know anything else, please let us know! |
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