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jmuns
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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 Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:02 pm Post subject: blame the native teacher |
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yesterday 7th period.
+ 42 2nd grade high school students.
+ no books.
+ 2 pencils.
+ no co-teacher
= simpsons and comprehension checks during the show through questions on the white board --->
= this mornings tongue lashing 'the principal is not happy' 'you must understand' 'no more videos' 'no movies/videos at all during summer camp' 'the 14 lesson plans we told you to turn in tomorrow are due today' 'why did you show that video' 'why did you not teach' --->
= F.M.L. |
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PigeonFart
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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That would annoy me greatly.
It's like the educational equivalent of putting on the aircon, yet leaving the window open. Doing something constructive with one hand (supplying a native teacher to the students), and undoing it with the other (no managerial planning, no responibility, no communication etc).
You did the right thing by showing a video of the simpsons followed by a discussion. In fact, the students probably enjoyed it more than a regular korean style class (repeitition, grammar, no inter-communication between students).
You keep doing what you're doing. You are better than those wankers you work with. They are institutionalised koreans. |
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iwillteachyouenglish
Joined: 07 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| guess the principal doesn't like the simpsons... really I dont either. I cannot understand how that show aired for so long. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Too bad the wankers are responsible for your pay checks too.
He is between a rock and a hard place and I do believe the above is not such a good advice. HE will just get himself fired and pbbly kill of any chance of being hired by another school.
My suggestion is to go to them and explain to them that what they are asking you to do is far above your responsibilities and time availability. Ask them for help because you are lost in their demands and you have no foot hold to start on.
Communicate, don't start a fight. They will just think you are another arrogant American and do away with you. |
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Zulethe
Joined: 04 Jul 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| The term in one ear out the other was specifically made for use with Korean bosses. |
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creeper1
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:59 pm Post subject: My take on this |
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Why are you complaining about the students having no pencils or books? As I understand it you are there to improve the students speaking ability.
A GOOD teacher can elicit communication through visual aids such as powerpoint, photograph and good old fashioned chalk and blackboard.
A bad one would simply put on videos and tell the students to watch this while he chills. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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SNIP-Smile Nod Ignore Proceed.
SOTR-Stay Off the Radar.
Advice- When you play movies put it on English subtitles and sometimes pause it and have the whole class do listen and repeat. Do this when your Principal pokes her/his head in the window.
When the subject matter gets too complicated change the subtitles to Korean. |
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lukas
Joined: 22 Aug 2009
Location: Bucheon
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry OP, that's a really bad situation. But, it reminds me of a Mitch Hedburg quote:
"When you're in Hollywood and you're a comedian, everybody wants you to do other things. All right, you're a stand-up comedian, can you write us a script? That's not fair. That's like if I worked hard to become a cook, and I'm a really good cook, they'd say, "OK, you're a cook. Can you farm?"
I'm really sick and tired of being expected to come up with all these amazing materials for PS summer camp/afterschool. I'm a teacher not a book publisher. I already work 27 hours a week. Way more teaching hours than any other teacher at my school. Especially the other English teachers who stare at the wall while I do 100% of the talking. (If they're even present in class, that is.)
I mean, I can possibly make a ditto on the fly everyday, but it's going to be dry and not at all fun. Which I can predict the school admin will come back to me and say my class is boring. On the other hand I can do what you did and show a video, and speak to the students in English about it.
Then uh-oh, I'm no longer teaching since the class is entertaining.
During the regular school year, I do well with the public school book, there are tons of activities and an interactive CD. I have the choice to use the materials, adapt, or scrap them. Why are summer camp and the after-school program any different? |
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CentralCali
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| lukas wrote: |
| Why are summer camp and the after-school program any different? |
Because the second the after-school or camp class begins, you're a hagweon teacher with all the attendant problems. You get to deal with a principal and a co-teacher whose number one concern is that the moms don't pull their little darlings out of the camp class. No matter the reason, you will be blamed.
During the regular classes, you don't have that worry as there is no choice. The students are required to be at the school. |
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jmuns
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: My take on this |
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| creeper1 wrote: |
Why are you complaining about the students having no pencils or books? As I understand it you are there to improve the students speaking ability.
A GOOD teacher can elicit communication through visual aids such as powerpoint, photograph and good old fashioned chalk and blackboard.
A bad one would simply put on videos and tell the students to watch this while he chills. |
you can come to my school and hold a class with no coteacher and see how well you can get them to listen to your ppt and blackboard. the pencils were going to be used to help with a game we could have played, but it does require them to actually write something down. but you are probably a GOOD teacher so i'll take your word for it. and as you didnt read my post obviously i didnt just chill, we had comprehension and vocabulary questions during the video. |
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lukas
Joined: 22 Aug 2009
Location: Bucheon
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| lukas wrote: |
| Why are summer camp and the after-school program any different? |
You get to deal with a principal and a co-teacher whose number one concern is that the moms don't pull their little darlings out of the camp class.
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By that logic, shouldn't the principle be happy that the students are enjoying the Simpons, thus maintaining a high attendance rate despite not being strictly academic? That would ensure the most money coming back to the school.
Further, my KET in change of organizing after school and summer camp, told me that parents don't pay for it. It is funded by the state, where there only restriction is how many students you can possibly stuff inside the classroom for the NET to teach.
Maybe she is wrong about that, it wouldn't be the first time. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| lukas wrote: |
| By that logic, shouldn't the principle be happy that the students are enjoying the Simpons, thus maintaining a high attendance rate despite not being strictly academic? That would ensure the most money coming back to the school. |
You'd think so. The key bit, apparently, is what the current vogue is for the moms. If they've heard that interactive video learnign is great, then you're damned if you don't use it. If you start using it and then they hear that it's using up valuable learning time, then you're damned for using it.
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Further, my KET in change of organizing after school and summer camp, told me that parents don't pay for it. It is funded by the state, where there only restriction is how many students you can possibly stuff inside the classroom for the NET to teach.
Maybe she is wrong about that, it wouldn't be the first time. |
Ask her how much funding the national or provincial government's going to provide for a class with few students. |
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buildbyflying
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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my recent frustration...
showed a movie to class during testing (with the unanimous consent of the KETs) only to be told they couldn't finish the movie after their tests were done the following week. Come to find out the KET showed the end of the movie during her class.  |
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lukas
Joined: 22 Aug 2009
Location: Bucheon
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| buildbyflying wrote: |
my recent frustration...
showed a movie to class during testing (with the unanimous consent of the KETs) only to be told they couldn't finish the movie after their tests were done the following week. Come to find out the KET showed the end of the movie during her class. |
that's mildly annoying. was it a good movie? |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| buildbyflying wrote: |
my recent frustration...
showed a movie to class during testing (with the unanimous consent of the KETs) only to be told they couldn't finish the movie after their tests were done the following week. Come to find out the KET showed the end of the movie during her class. |
Try to keep it on the USB stick if you can. If you have to copy the file onto the computer delete it off after class. |
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