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[TheUrbanMyth]

This is a question about pension. Have you had it at every hakwon job you have had?


Only one out of four ever paid pension and that only was after I forced them to by threatening to call the pension office....a reason why I moved to public school. Steel cage matches with hakwon directors were getting old. So I voted "Some"

[ttompatz]

I voted none.

I have never worked in a hakwon that paid into NHIC or NPS (and I worked in a few before I switched to the PS system.

I have NEVER personally known anyone working in a hakwon who was enrolled in the NPS.

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[OculisOrbis]

Two hagwon jobs, the first under-reported my income (1.3 mil instead of 2.4 mil) so I ended up paying for everything, my employer got to pocket the little bit extra and did not contribute anything that they were supposed to - approx net loss for me = 1.3 mil. I was unable to do anything about it as they went bankrupt before I became aware of their theft.

Second job was only a temporary 3 month job until PS semester started in September. Agreed on a fair wage, but didnt talk about health and pension. Apparently he wasnt expecting to contribute to either until I asked for my health insurance card - received it about 10 days later and when the job was finished I found out he reported my income as 1 mil instead of 2.5. I didnt care about that as it was a very short term job and he was great in every other respect.

Three PS jobs, all tried the 30% salary reduction scam (which means they consider pension to be calculated on 70% your salary instead of your true salary. The 30% reduction was to be applied only on your income at tax settlement time) until I set them straight. No issues with any salary or benefits following the first correction at each school. This scam is obsolete now since Jan 1, 2010 because the 30% reduction for foreigner income for income tax has been discontinued so you shouldnt have to worry about it anymore.

Advice: Insist on itemized pay statements. Always call the pertinent offices and verify everything for yourself early on in a job and every few months after that if you work in a hagwon. Don't trust that they said they did it, did it correctly, or even that they are continuing making the contributions.

[sojusucks]

[SeoulNate]

Working for a Hogwon right now and I am getting pension along with my 5 coworkers. And before anyone asks, yes, I checked with the office.

[WadRUG'naDoo]

Get a good enough salary and pension doesn't matter. At one time, I was adamant on getting it and then realised that I didn't care

[TheUrbanMyth]

So far 4 out of 14 got their promised pension benefits...anybody else wish to weight in?

[cmr]

I answered "most" because I did get it (the pension refund) after my first hagwon job before going back home. The other hagwons that followed didn't pay pension, but I knew it and had a better salary accordingly, so there was no problem or surprise there.

[tophatcat]

didn't get it at my first school, I've gotten it since. I wouldn't accept a job or continue to work at a school that doesn't participate in pension

[Nester Noodlemon]

: 2/4

[ontheway]

[TheUrbanMyth]

[wooden nickels]

[Young FRANKenstein]

My first hagwon was so long ago, I don't even know, but with all the other financial shenanigans he pulled before I ran, I suspect not.

The next one didn't, but I didn't realize it until years later. Got NHIC, though.

The final one did. NPS, NHIC, the whole dealio.

Switching over to uni, one REFUSED to pay into both NPS and NHIC, so we filed complaints and the respective boards fined him into hock. Got my money in the end.

Current uni pays into everything.

So in 14 years,
3/5 for pension
3/5 for insurance (only the unis were obligated to provide it under the law; the hagwons were all pre-2006)

[Young FRANKenstein]