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air76
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
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 Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:15 pm Post subject: Beer Survey..... |
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I have traveled far and wide across the planet and have never been to a country where I encountered worse beer across the board than in Korea.
Out of curiosity, has anyone ever been somewhere that was worse?
I think that Thai beer is pretty bad, but you can get Tiger there for a reasonable price, which is OK, so I think that they're off the hook even though Tiger is from Singapore. |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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| The mass produced American domestics are only marginally better, with the exception of Samuel Adams, which is more like an import. But I guess we are off the hook too as there are a ton of pretty good micro brews and also a wide selection of imports at more reasonable prices than here. |
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Italy37612
Joined: 25 Jan 2010
Location: Somewhere
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| Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Russia's beer is pretty shoddy. They sure know how to make their vodka though. |
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air76
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:06 am Post subject: |
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| Sector7G wrote: |
| The mass produced American domestics are only marginally better, with the exception of Samuel Adams, which is more like an import. But I guess we are off the hook too as there are a ton of pretty good micro brews and also a wide selection of imports at more reasonable prices than here. |
Oh, I have to disagree there....really crappy beers like Busch or Milwaukee's Best are equivalent to Korean domestics, but a Bud or Coors is WAY better than Korean beer. I am not defending American mass produced beer to be great, but to say that a Budweiser is even remotely in the same league as Korean beer is crazy in my opinion.
That is true about Russia....I was only there for a couple weeks and didn't drink too much beer, but I remember drinking a beer called Baltica or something like that and it was far from memorable. |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:48 am Post subject: |
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| air76 wrote: |
Oh, I have to disagree there....really crappy beers like Busch or Milwaukee's Best are equivalent to Korean domestics, but a Bud or Coors is WAY better than Korean beer. I am not defending American mass produced beer to be great, but to say that a Budweiser is even remotely in the same league as Korean beer is crazy in my opinion.
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Air, you've started an interesting thread, and I don't want to sidetrack it with a one on one debate, but come on, Bud and Coors are WAY better? There is hardly any substantial flavor or character in either one of them, especially Coors, so how could they be WAY better. The only reason I even give them the marginal nod is that they don't give me the hangover I get when I drink Hite. So if you're judging on hangover severity, I agree with you. If you are judging on flavor and character, I disagree-they are in the same league(the Busch League). 
Anyway, I stopped drinking American domestics back home about 20 years ago, unless there was no other choice. |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:01 am Post subject: |
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| Sector7G wrote: |
| The mass produced American domestics are only marginally better, with the exception of Samuel Adams, which is more like an import. But I guess we are off the hook too as there are a ton of pretty good micro brews and also a wide selection of imports at more reasonable prices than here. |
This is what I was going to say, but my laptop blue screened on me (I think it can't handle the heat).
I was going to say, I would as happily have a Max from the big glass bottle as a Budweiser.
The mainstream beers from NZ and Aus are no better. Speights Gold Medal, DB Export and XXXX, VB respectively are all sub par, but widely drunk beers. I would struggle to tell the difference in a blind taste test if you threw in two Korean beers.
Sam Adams is by far the best mass market beer I have ever tasted. |
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Richard Krainium
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:03 am Post subject: Re: Beer Survey..... |
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| air76 wrote: |
I have traveled far and wide across the planet and have never been to a country where I encountered worse beer across the board than in Korea.
Out of curiosity, has anyone ever been somewhere that was worse?
I think that Thai beer is pretty bad, but you can get Tiger there for a reasonable price, which is OK, so I think that they're off the hook even though Tiger is from Singapore. |
Where's the survey? 
Opinions on beer are very much like *mod edit*, everybody has one. Here's mine.
Tiger Beer is only slightly better than Hite. Both are better than Bud. Chang is the best Thai beer, but only the domestic version at 6.4%. Try it on the rocks. It really beats the Thai heat. 
Chang export at 5% is almost as bad as Singha, a truely shite beer.
The Indian, Russian and Chinese beers I've tasted, except Tsingtao, are for the most part, watery crap.
I'm glad my fridge is fully loaded with Tsingtao, San Miguel, Sam Adams, Becks, Blue Moon and 5,0. 
If I was back in California, I don't think any of the beers I've mentioned in this post would be in my fridge, unless it was some super sale.
Speaking of which, last time I was back, I was buying 30 packs of Tecate cans for $16.99.
That's about the same price Costco Korea sells a 12 pack of Miller Lite for. What a joke.
Recommendations for beer in Korea, without breaking the bank:
Tesco Premium Lager (made in Holland, but, not by Grolsch)
Emart and Lotte Mart carry Oettinger Weizen. Can be found on sale for under 2,000 won a 500cc can at times. Do not drink the 8.9%! It is rotten.
Emart has been carrying 5,0 Weizen (that's no typo) as of late for 1750 won for a 500cc can. Not bad either.
Final recommendation. Mix Hite Stout and Hite Max for a poor man's Black and Tan.
Gonna go get me another beer!
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:22 am Post subject: |
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| Emart also has a beer called "von Raven." Has anybody else tried it? |
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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom
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| Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:32 am Post subject: |
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| Sector7G wrote: |
| The mass produced American domestics are only marginally better |
Canadians would call it urine. |
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air76
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:43 am Post subject: |
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Air, you've started an interesting thread, and I don't want to sidetrack it with a one on one debate, but come on, Bud and Coors are WAY better? There is hardly any substantial flavor or character in either one of them, especially Coors, so how could they be WAY better. The only reason I even give them the marginal nod is that they don't give me the hangover I get when I drink Hite. So if you're judging on hangover severity, I agree with you. If you are judging on flavor and character, I disagree-they are in the same league(the Busch League).
Anyway, I stopped drinking American domestics back home about 20 years ago, unless there was no other choice. |
Yes....I am absolutely judging partially on hangover severity. I think that this is a completely relevant criteria to use when judging a beer (or any alcoholic beverage).....which is why I think that Thai beer is terrible as well. Thai beer tastes OK, but I find that the hangovers are brutal as well, like you've been poisoned. Korean beer makes me feel like I've been poisoned as well.
When I am in the US I rarely drink regular domestic beer, but I don't think that Bud or Coors has a bad flavor. They're just kind of there....but Korean beer actually tastes skunky and gross, similar to the taste you get in your mouth from drinking Schmidt's from a can.
Of course it's all a matter of opinion, and I really do enjoy a nice, flavorful beer....but a few months ago I was at a bar near the Army base and they had Miller Genuine Draft on tap....and at home I'd never drink that....but it tasted INCREDIBLE, like I was in Belgium or something, it tasted THAT much better than the K beer. I think that our mouths acclimate a tad bit to the K beer out of necessity, but to me it's all just plain awful. |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:47 am Post subject: Re: Beer Survey..... |
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| Richard Krainium wrote: |
Emart has been carrying 5,0 Weizen (that's no typo) as of late for 1750 won for a 500cc can. Not bad either.
Final recommendation. Mix Hite Stout and Hite Max for a poor man's Black and Tan.
Gonna go get me another beer! |
You are right about opinions, but there is more to it than just that. There is just no accounting for taste-what tastes good to one man can taste like shite to another.
Also, I think our beer tastes may evolve. I know for sure mine has. I remember many moons ago thinking that Heinekin was too strong. Now I think it is too weak, unless there is a dark available.
I discovered a convenience store on my way home from school that sold the large bottles of Tsingtao for 3000 won, so I was drinking the hell out of that for a couple months. But now I am kind of bored with it. Likewise with the Tesco lager-not a bad beer for the price, but I got tired of it as well.
Lotte had 4,9 Weizen (not a typo either) in the 330cc can for about 1550 won. Not bad at all for that price. Tastes similar to Hoegarden.
I have done the poor man's Black and Tan many times. IMHO Black Stout is Korea's best beer.
Wine enthusiasts don't like to drink the same varietals or vintages time after time after time, but like to seek out and explore new ones. As a beer aficionado, I feel the same way.
Cheers! |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:51 am Post subject: |
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| Louis VI wrote: |
| Sector7G wrote: |
| The mass produced American domestics are only marginally better |
Canadians would call it urine. |
Haha- I knew that was coming! |
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Richard Krainium
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:53 am Post subject: |
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| flakfizer wrote: |
| Emart also has a beer called "von Raven." Has anybody else tried it? |
Yea, I tried it. It was ok. The 5,0 is much better, imo. There was another beer there, too. Another lager, same price, 500cc can. Thought it was about the same as von Raven. Not bad, not great. |
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jd126
Joined: 28 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:41 am Post subject: |
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Taiwan, if no one else mentioned. Toxicity levels are to die for.
Mainland China, also junk.
Did ya know "Snow" is the most sold beer in the world? Cheap crap.
Tsingtao in China sucks. Apparently it is better outside China.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_beer
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seonsengnimble
Joined: 02 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:47 am Post subject: |
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Korea definitely has the worst beer out of any of the countries I've been to. China wasn't great, but it at least had cheap tsingtao everywhere.
In Thailand, I drank chang and tiger all the time which are both decent.
In summer in Korea, I prefer to drink the cheap rum. If I were home, I'd be sipping on a heffeweizen with lemon. |
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