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Denied a Visa. Can I apply again in the Future?

 
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michi gnome



Joined: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Dokdo

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:11 pm    Post subject: Denied a Visa. Can I apply again in the Future? Reply with quote

I was recently denied a Visa to teach in Korea.

Reasons cited were that 1) I didn't complete a contract. (That is true, but I left after informing the director I would be leaving, and giving him more than a months' notice).
2) They claimed I accepted a position and never showed up. This is completely false. Don't know where they got this mis-information, but there's nothing I can do about it.

I have taken the rejection as an opportunity to teach in other lands. However, I'm a bit bummed if it means I would never be able to teach and live in Korea again.

Can anyone help me out here? If you are denied a Visa--does this mean you are banned for life from getting another Visa? Or is there simply a waiting period (perhaps several years?) before you can re-apply for teaching positions?

Thanks in advance for your help.
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michi gnome



Joined: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Dokdo

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should add I am kind of stunned really, since I know people who have done a midnight run, only to return a year or so later with no problems in getting a new contract.

I suppose it's due to the stricter hiring standards at the moment...
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think your visa was rejected (at least not by immigration for the stated reasons).

YOU may have been rejected by the recruiter / school in question for those reasons.

IF there was a problem (person with re-entry permit leaving but not handing in their ARC - thus having a valid visa outstanding) then the wait would just be until the end of the current visa period.

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kingasiatic88



Joined: 02 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious - would immigration tell his prospective employer that he had not completed a contract in the past?
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Howler Monkey



Joined: 12 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I highly doubt it.
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michi gnome



Joined: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Dokdo

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for your replies. The school I was applying to didn't know that I had left a contract after 6 months. Once again, I was up front about everything, and gave a notice well over a month.

I had sent in all the documents, and the school heard back from customs about 10 days later. It was then the guy working for the school (not an outside recruiter) emailed me, asking 'why didn't you tell us you had left another school? Now there is nothing we can do.'

In his email he cited the two reasons for why the visa was denied. I have no idea where they got the 2nd reason, not showing up after accepting a job, because it never happened.

I'm wondering if there is a way I can check with the consulate, to see if I still can work in Korea in the future.

Thanks again. I appreciate the help.
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kingasiatic88



Joined: 02 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's pretty hard to keep track of all this - you hear there is no immi blacklist except if you committ some heinous crime and then you hear stories like yours. it sort of makes me think there is a blacklist floating around between recruiters and hagwons or something.

well i hope it works out for you somehow~
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure this not the classic BS baffles brains. School says they are going to hire you. Start the process, then find a better or cheaper teacher. Rather then doing the honorable thing maybe they just decide to lie and place the blame on you.

What about the other job that you applied for and did not honor. Could it have been some recruiter that signed your name.
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wiganer



Joined: 13 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait until this recession is over - and I am being serious.
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michi gnome



Joined: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Dokdo

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone else ever been denied a Visa, only to re-apply successfully at a later time?
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

michi gnome wrote:
Thank you for your replies.
The school I was applying to didn't know that I had left a contract after 6 months.

Once again, I was up front about everything, and gave a notice well over a month.

I had sent in all the documents, and the school heard back from customs about 10 days later. It was then

the guy working for the school (not an outside recruiter) emailed me, asking 'why didn't you tell us you had left another school? Now there is nothing we can do.'

In his email he cited the two reasons for why the visa was denied. I have no idea where they got the 2nd reason, not showing up after accepting a job, because it never happened.

I'm wondering if there is a way I can check with the consulate, to see if I still can work in Korea in the future.

Thanks again. I appreciate the help.



From looking at the facts you've presented, here is what seems to have happened to you at Immigration.

You applied for a new job in Korea. You sent in a resume. You did not provide an accurate resume, but left off key information to make yourself look better.

Another popular Dave's myth is that it's a good idea to leave off bad job info when searching for a new job. The problem I keep pointing out is that:

Your resume is a required Immigration application document. Immigration is supposed to compare this document to your Korean work history in their files. If you lie on your resume you will be denied a visa for visa fraud.

So, you got caught and you were denied a visa.

Now, some people might lie and Immigration doesn't notice or fails to check. These things happen. A busy, tired or lazy Immi official just shuffles the paper through ... but you got caught. It isn't clear whether they will keep a record of this rejected application and the reason. You might be able to file for another job with an honest resume and get hired. However, if they've filed your attempt at visa fraud in the system you could be on Immigration's black list. You could be banned temporarily or permanently. Try again. If you're lucky aad they don't have a system to keep a record of your phoney resume, and if you use an honest resume, you might still get a job in Korea.
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ChilgokBlackHole



Joined: 21 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ontheway wrote:
Korea.

Your posts are unreadable.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChilgokBlackHole wrote:
ontheway wrote:
Korea.

Your posts are unreadable.


If you have trouble reading, I can recommend a good remedial program for you.
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