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Paladin Brewer



Joined: 25 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:42 pm    Post subject: Getting Principal/vice principal gift at end of semester Reply with quote

Greets,

I've been here since April, and I never bought a principal and vice principal a gift, which I assume is the nice thing to do. I was debating on getting them some local whiskey, but I didn't know if that would be odd since I've been here since April.

If that's alright, I was thinking I had to give the vice principal a slightly less expensive bottle than the principal?
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Getting Principal/vice principal gift at end of semester Reply with quote

Paladin Brewer wrote:
Greets,

I've been here since April, and I never bought a principal and vice principal a gift, which I assume is the nice thing to do. I was debating on getting them some local whiskey, but I didn't know if that would be odd since I've been here since April.

If that's alright, I was thinking I had to give the vice principal a slightly less expensive bottle than the principal?



I've never bought gifts at any P.S I've been at and never will. Feel free but it's not going to matter one way or another.
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Save your money.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only if you Really like them.

I mean Really. Like they give you tons of OT/no deskwarming breaks type stuff.

If they are just polite: saying "Hello", then don't bother. They will expect things from you for the rest of your term.
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NYC_Gal



Joined: 08 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't unless they say in advance that you don't have to deskwarm. It's a waste. If you renew, get some gifts when you go on home leave.
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sulperman



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a year neither my principal nor my vp have ever bothered to say anything to me, either in Korean or English. I only get an acknowledgement on my bow about 10% of the time from either. Though I am told they both like me.

They aren't getting any gifts from me. Ever.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never get a gift for no reason, unless you go back home, then you can pick something up (totally optional).
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wiganer



Joined: 13 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was told by my co-teacher never to give gifts to the VP or the principal.
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OculisOrbis



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wiganer wrote:
I was told by my co-teacher never to give gifts to the VP or the principal.


...because you ll make your CT look bad if you did since they dont......that said, i would never get a gift for the P or VP unless work conditions were well above par, no desk warming, and i genuinely liked them.
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:48 am    Post subject: Re: Getting Principal/vice principal gift at end of semester Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Paladin Brewer wrote:
Greets,

I've been here since April, and I never bought a principal and vice principal a gift, which I assume is the nice thing to do. I was debating on getting them some local whiskey, but I didn't know if that would be odd since I've been here since April.

If that's alright, I was thinking I had to give the vice principal a slightly less expensive bottle than the principal?



I've never bought gifts at any P.S I've been at and never will. Feel free but it's not going to matter one way or another.


This is good advice. If you have worked for them then they are better off because of your loyal service. Why add some token gift? Are you worried about keeping your job?
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As much as I want to be liked and treated as a favorite privileged pet striving for extra free vacation, I can't seem to bring myself to doing gifts as it screams, "brown nosing bribe!" Just bow and say this, "anyong haseyo," stuff, because that's what they expect and appreciate out of you. It sounds more like, "ah nee uh sayo." Must be an informal version I hear 99% of the time.
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lukas



Joined: 22 Aug 2009
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's a nice gesture if you go on vacation and you bring them back a little something they wouldn't be able to get in Korea. However, if you're just going to be staying around Korea I think it's better to just buy some kind of cake/bread/snack at the local faux french bakery. Something you can all have with your CTs who speak English.

In my opinion gift giving isn't about what you can get out of it. If that's your attitude please follow the above posters advice and don't do anything. If you think you have a relatively good gig at your school, and want to show your appreciation, I think it goes a long way at improving relationships with your coworkers.

Hasn't anyone ever being given some food by a Korea and it lifted their mood? With the language barrier it's hard to communicate, but sharing some food can be a good way to show you took the time to think about something. One of the teachers brought me ice cream a few days ago when it was boiling hot inside my office. It made my day, and I doubt I'll forget for months to come. Maybe that makes me simple and naive, and makes that Korean a brown noser! Rolling Eyes
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lukas wrote:
I think it's a nice gesture if you go on vacation and you bring them back a little something they wouldn't be able to get in Korea. However, if you're just going to be staying around Korea I think it's better to just buy some kind of cake/bread/snack at the local faux french bakery. Something you can all have with your CTs who speak English.

In my opinion gift giving isn't about what you can get out of it. If that's your attitude please follow the above posters advice and don't do anything. If you think you have a relatively good gig at your school, and want to show your appreciation, I think it goes a long way at improving relationships with your coworkers.

Hasn't anyone ever being given some food by a Korea and it lifted their mood? With the language barrier it's hard to communicate, but sharing some food can be a good way to show you took the time to think about something. One of the teachers brought me ice cream a few days ago when it was boiling hot inside my office. It made my day, and I doubt I'll forget for months to come. Maybe that makes me simple and naive, and makes that Korean a brown noser! Rolling Eyes



Sharing food with ALL your co-workers is NOT the same as buying an expensive/semi-expensive gift for the top guy/guys.

Not even in the same ball park.

Oh and not ragging on you, but by your own admission you've been here less than a year. Maybe you should wait a little longer before giving advice?
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lukas



Joined: 22 Aug 2009
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
lukas wrote:
I think it's a nice gesture if you go on vacation and you bring them back a little something they wouldn't be able to get in Korea. However, if you're just going to be staying around Korea I think it's better to just buy some kind of cake/bread/snack at the local faux french bakery. Something you can all have with your CTs who speak English.

In my opinion gift giving isn't about what you can get out of it. If that's your attitude please follow the above posters advice and don't do anything. If you think you have a relatively good gig at your school, and want to show your appreciation, I think it goes a long way at improving relationships with your coworkers.

Hasn't anyone ever being given some food by a Korea and it lifted their mood? With the language barrier it's hard to communicate, but sharing some food can be a good way to show you took the time to think about something. One of the teachers brought me ice cream a few days ago when it was boiling hot inside my office. It made my day, and I doubt I'll forget for months to come. Maybe that makes me simple and naive, and makes that Korean a brown noser! Rolling Eyes



Sharing food with ALL your co-workers is NOT the same as buying an expensive/semi-expensive gift for the top guy/guys.

Not even in the same ball park.

Oh and not ragging on you, but by your own admission you've been here less than a year. Maybe you should wait a little longer before giving advice?


That's fair, but I never said it was the same as giving an expensive gift. It was intended only as an opinion, in the realm of gift giving in general.

99% of what's posted on this board is an opinion, and just like them you can take it or leave it.

However, if you're saying my opinion is less valid because I haven't been in Korea for as long as you, well, maybe you should bugger off?

Maybe you can post a sticky regarding the magic formula as to what seniority of people in Korea are allowed to give advice? Please don't bother answering this, it's rhetorical. Razz [/u][/i]
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lukas wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
lukas wrote:
I think it's a nice gesture if you go on vacation and you bring them back a little something they wouldn't be able to get in Korea. However, if you're just going to be staying around Korea I think it's better to just buy some kind of cake/bread/snack at the local faux french bakery. Something you can all have with your CTs who speak English.

In my opinion gift giving isn't about what you can get out of it. If that's your attitude please follow the above posters advice and don't do anything. If you think you have a relatively good gig at your school, and want to show your appreciation, I think it goes a long way at improving relationships with your coworkers.

Hasn't anyone ever being given some food by a Korea and it lifted their mood? With the language barrier it's hard to communicate, but sharing some food can be a good way to show you took the time to think about something. One of the teachers brought me ice cream a few days ago when it was boiling hot inside my office. It made my day, and I doubt I'll forget for months to come. Maybe that makes me simple and naive, and makes that Korean a brown noser! Rolling Eyes



Sharing food with ALL your co-workers is NOT the same as buying an expensive/semi-expensive gift for the top guy/guys.

Not even in the same ball park.

Oh and not ragging on you, but by your own admission you've been here less than a year. Maybe you should wait a little longer before giving advice?


That's fair, but I never said it was the same as giving an expensive gift. It was intended only as an opinion, in the realm of gift giving in general.

99% of what's posted on this board is an opinion, and just like them you can take it or leave it.

However, if you're saying my opinion is less valid because I haven't been in Korea for as long as you, well, maybe you should bugger off?

Maybe you can post a sticky regarding the magic formula as to what seniority of people in Korea are allowed to give advice? Please don't bother answering this, it's rhetorical. Razz [/u][/i]



We were talking about getting a bottle of whisky for the Principal and VP...not gift giving in general. That is the context.

And in general (not all the time but in general) more experience equates to a more valid opinion. If you had two doctors assess your condition and one had ten years' experience and the other one year...which do you think most people would believe? Sorry but those are the facts.




(for the reading comprehension challenged I am NOT equating being a doctor with being a ESL teacher...merely using a extreme example to get the point across.)
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