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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:03 pm    Post subject: BBC leads with North Korea story Reply with quote

Aparantly the sinking of the Cheonan may herald a new dangerous period. There is an expert predicting more attacks by North Korea.

Clinton is here to show her support prior to a large military exercise.

You can read more here. www.bbc.co.uk
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The U.S. may be entering �a dangerous new period� with North Korea marked by military provocations designed to advance the Stalinist state�s political goals, President Barack Obama�s nominee for intelligence chief said.

http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aG9VBfPs7CjQ
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its been a "dangerous phase" for the last 60 years.

Gets a bit tiring to constantly live under these politically manufactured states of emergency after a while. Rolling Eyes
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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:38 pm    Post subject: It's different now Reply with quote

Yeah but something is different now. Kim Jong Il is either dead or close to dying.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/7901818/New-statue-of-Kim-Jong-Il-sparks-rumours-he-is-close-to-death.html
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there will be blood! American needs to fight! they need to power their military! the question is.. IRAN, Pakistan or North Korea... which is next?
one of them is going to be invaded...

it's funny how America go on and one about Illegal invasions or illegal attacks, sanctions must be put forward to those countries breaking international law etc ...

UMMMM HELLO! and how many laws does America break everyday!
it's so funny how the American propaganda machine can manipulate anything to make it look like it's not illegal! they get away with it,, which is incredible!
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seoulsucker



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

itaewonguy wrote:
UMMMM HELLO! and how many laws does America break everyday!
it's so funny how the American propaganda machine can manipulate anything to make it look like it's not illegal! they get away with it,, which is incredible!


It's called manifest destiny, beeyotch. Look it up. It's in the book we wrote. Wink
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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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they get away with it,, which is incredible!


Well... What are YOU gonna do about it? 'You' being the rest of the world. Nowt, is the answer, they can't. Nor can the world do anything about China, but hey.
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mc_jc



Joined: 13 Aug 2009
Location: C4B- Cp Red Cloud, Area-I

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing is going to happen.
Although China publicly sides with the North Koreans, they are fully aware of the danger the regime poses to the stability of the region as well as to their own stability.
Back in the early 2000's, North Korea walked away from the 6-party talks. To "persuade" them to come back, China turned off its natural gas pipeline into North Korea for 3 days. That's all it took for them to go back to the bargaining table.
As for a strike on Seoul, not in a million years. There are early warning systems all along the DMZ that will warn of a possible attack from the North's mountainside artillery bases. Thats when the MLRS systems and the mercury-tipped "bunker busters" go to work...talk about a fireworks display.
Not to mention Japan-based American subs that are always patrolling off the west and east coasts for possible warning signs of attack from North Korea and China.
Not to mention the undeclared nuclear arsenal already stationed in Korea.
Again, nothing is going to happen.
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The Goalie



Joined: 17 Nov 2009
Location: Chungcheongnamdo

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mc_jc wrote:
Nothing is going to happen..


That's a relief. I was getting worried after what those other guys said.
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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:48 pm    Post subject: More trouble Reply with quote

THis is the latest. We have more trouble. I can't believet that more people aren't concerned about this!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-10722218
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The media does what the media does OP. In this case fear sells.

NK has been playing the provocation game for decades.
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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:56 am    Post subject: Sense somethings up Reply with quote

I think the media are sensing that something is up this time. It's weird how everything is calm and North Korea are now telling us that they WILL use nuclear weapons soon .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-10748148
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Vix



Joined: 18 Jun 2010
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mc_jc wrote:
Nothing is going to happen.
Although China publicly sides with the North Koreans, they are fully aware of the danger the regime poses to the stability of the region as well as to their own stability.
Back in the early 2000's, North Korea walked away from the 6-party talks. To "persuade" them to come back, China turned off its natural gas pipeline into North Korea for 3 days. That's all it took for them to go back to the bargaining table.
As for a strike on Seoul, not in a million years. There are early warning systems all along the DMZ that will warn of a possible attack from the North's mountainside artillery bases. Thats when the MLRS systems and the mercury-tipped "bunker busters" go to work...talk about a fireworks display.
Not to mention Japan-based American subs that are always patrolling off the west and east coasts for possible warning signs of attack from North Korea and China.
Not to mention the undeclared nuclear arsenal already stationed in Korea.
Again, nothing is going to happen.


I want to believe you! But the media is persuasive. Ah well let the chips fall where they may nothing I can do about it Smile
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:18 am    Post subject: Re: Sense somethings up Reply with quote

creeper1 wrote:
I think the media are sensing that something is up this time. It's weird how everything is calm and North Korea are now telling us that they WILL use nuclear weapons soon .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-10748148


Yes, it was weird when they said they would strike anywhere in the world in 2003:

http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/korea/articles/20030213.aspx

when they said they would turn South Korea into debris in 2008:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C444369%2C00.html

and when they said they would throw "merciless blows" in 2004:

http://agonist.org/node/257/print


Absolutely nothing new under the sun. Also, remember that death is inevitable. Yours may come later, or amidst a sea of radioactive fire tonight. It could come on your next stroll up to the local mart with something falling on you or running into you. No worries ever, because even if you feel you can prolong your life, you may be putting yourself at greater risk in another way.
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mc_jc



Joined: 13 Aug 2009
Location: C4B- Cp Red Cloud, Area-I

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I want to believe you! But the media is persuasive.

That's perfectly ok. Some people are not capable of critical thinking and deductive reasoning.


China keeps North Korea afloat under the policy of having "satellite states" that cushion an invasion and give the Chinese time to mobilize their forces to repel an attack. It was the same policy the Soviets had during the Cold War. This is also the reason why there are 100,000 CPLA troops and 20,000 tanks stationed along the border.
These Chinese military assets play two roles;
1. They repel the massive refugee influx in case of war
2. Invade the country and install a Chinese-friendly government so the Koreans, UNC or the Americans can't unite Korea under a pro-US government.
The strategy for the CPLA is that while the North Koreans are concentrating their firepower against the USFK-UNC forces in the south, the CPLA would overrun the country from the north and reach P'yang in two days- taking out Kim Jeong Il or Kim Jeong Un (whoever is in power at the time) and installing a regime that would negotiate another truce with UNC forces.
Chinese forces would then officially occupy the North to maintain the status quo.


If you don't believe that the Chinese have a design on North Korea, look up the Northeast Project.
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