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Died By Bear

Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:15 am Post subject: Just saw Inception, loved it *spoiler at the end* |
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Great movie.
Definitely worth a 2nd viewing because there's so much you miss the first time with a good flick. Visually, it was the most amazing thing I've seen since The Matrix. Simply astounding. Great gun film, if you're into guns. ha.
Warning! Spoiler!
Great ending, love the cliffhanger, would love to know if other people think that Dicaprio's character was the one getting "inception" by the teacher/old man at the end...
The only thing that got on my nerves was when they make rules then break them...
-Like the "if you die in the dream you just wake up" then in the last sequence "oh I forgot to tell you guys about the sedative, if you die here, you're gonna go to limbo..." It would have been better to have a scene of the chemist telling Leonardo about the deadliness of the sedative just to inform the audience beforehand, so it didn't feel like a cop out when it was revealed.
-They could have done the transition from the 3rd level to limbo a little better, like how come you go to limbo from the 3rd level and not just to another level (4th)? How come they all went to Leonardo's old limbo? How come the Asian guy aged and Leonardo did not? Why'd the girl have to kill herself in limbo when the bombs in the 3rd level were there to kick them out of it?
It felt like they could have cut out the whole limbo scene crap and it would have been just as good if not better.
On Totems
Totems only work when you are in YOUR dream and controlling the reality, correct? So you know when you are in your dream, and when you are in the real world, and the totem helps keep you straight.
But if you are in someone else's dream, then they control the reality; and if they do not know what 'special ability' your totem has, then it would appear perfectly ordinary. So totems would give their owners no ability whatsoever to differentiate reality from you being in someone else's dream, correct?
So the totems were really useless holdovers from a time of folks doing very controlled research, when they were only worried about losing sight of their own reality. Once you start grabbing people and going into their dreams in a hostile manner, it seems to me that all bets are off.
Amiright? Ah, first good movie I've seen in awhile. |
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TECO

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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:18 am Post subject: |
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The top didn't stop spinning, did it?
Inception 2 in a couple of years? |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Thought the movie was pretty good, but not amazing!
if we must compare it with the matrix I'd give the higher vote to the matrix.
MAtrix 1 that is.. the others sucked!
but this film was cool never the less, some things were very strange and got
confusing towards the end.
at times found I missed some of the actors dialog due the music score being very loud. |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Too much CGI in movies today. Just a bunch of fake rocks and concrete.
Hell, I never saw Avatar and am boycotting the 3-D craze, i.e. Despicable Me.
Where are the movies with real life locations and actors? Bring me back. |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: Just saw Inception, loved it *spoiler at the end* |
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Frenetic wrote: |
On Totems
Totems only work when you are in YOUR dream and controlling the reality, correct? So you know when you are in your dream, and when you are in the real world, and the totem helps keep you straight.
But if you are in someone else's dream, then they control the reality; and if they do not know what 'special ability' your totem has, then it would appear perfectly ordinary. So totems would give their owners no ability whatsoever to differentiate reality from you being in someone else's dream, correct?
So the totems were really useless holdovers from a time of folks doing very controlled research, when they were only worried about losing sight of their own reality. Once you start grabbing people and going into their dreams in a hostile manner, it seems to me that all bets are off.
Amiright? Ah, first good movie I've seen in awhile. |
you're right that it was a pretty decent movie, but you messed up in a lot of the details. When the crew are first discussing Limbo and they're in the first dream, Eames tells Ariadne that they'd find the remnants of what was created by anyone in their shared dream who'd been there before, and that that meant they'd be venturing into Cobb's world in this case.
As far as totems go- they tell you if you're in someone else's dream- not your own. In someone else's dream, they wouldn't be able to get the feel or weight of it right and that would tell you that something was off, sort of the way Saito's carpet tipped him off in the opening sequence. They weren't holdovers from a clinical trial, Cobb tells Ariadne that they were Mal's idea, presumably from the days when they were exploring the limits of what they could do. |
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Died By Bear

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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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I have to see it again peppy, I totally missed all that.  |
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thomas pars
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:50 am Post subject: |
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Classic Nolan.
Always questioning the audience's perceived omnipotence.
Still I much prefer the endings in the prestige, and following.
Can't wait for Batman 3. rumor had it Johny Depp was going to come aboard. |
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Radius
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:37 am Post subject: |
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the totem at the end falls...because we see the children's faces...it was wobbling, it would fallen. |
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Louis VI
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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matthews_world wrote: |
Too much CGI in movies today. Just a bunch of fake rocks and concrete. Hell, I never saw Avatar and am boycotting the 3-D craze |
Agreed! But Inception is mostly about the people NOT the special effects, that is, the concept is played out more in dramatic scenes of acting (good actors galore in this flick!) than it is in high tech gimmickry. I disliked Avatar as a vampid heartless display of color and dazzle but I liked Inception as a well-developed basic Sci-Fi plot more akin to reading a novel than to a visual buffet. The previews don't do justice to the drama and human tension of the film, the decent acting and quiet moments of tension. It's actually got an old movie feel of SLOW PACING which I like, a calmness and careful development, NOT rushed, not headache-inducing camera shifts or other frenetic action typical these days in filmmaking. |
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Died By Bear

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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Good posts. I love to hear other people's perspective on good movie plots. Hollywood these days = too much on special effects and not enough character development. Except for movies like this. Hopeful we can see more of these kinds of thought provoking films. |
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BreakfastInBed

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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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I enjoyed it as an interesting puzzle. There was a bit too much run-of-the-mill action for me. A car chase or shoot-out needs to be awfully special and these were merely serviceable. The interest was always generated by the interplay between the layers of dream reality and, while I remained engaged in the film because of that interplay, I was a little disappointed that a movie so well thought out and intriguing would lean so heavily on the standard action movie playbook. The third level especially was a huge disappointment to me. A big gunfight in the snow? Really? There are so many good ideas in the movie. Why couldn't they extend to the action too? |
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