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Mikejelai



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:56 pm    Post subject: current US military sabre rattling in Korea Reply with quote

Any other US citizens here in Korea embarrased/upset by the show of force going on here now? Aircraft carriers, Hillary, Bill Gates, etc. Such a financial waste; seems to me that the money could be spent on things to benefit US citizens better.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope. What embarrasses me is asinine comments about a joint military exercise of two allies.
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wiganer



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
Nope. What embarrasses me is asinine comments about a joint military exercise of two allies.


But when the North Koreans do it - its called 'sabre rattling'
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Mikejelai



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is my comment asinine (foolish)?
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stilicho25



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The norks just sank a South Korean warship and killed some of her crew. Instead of declaring a war, or taking military action, BO used this opportunity to make a show of strength, to remind the norks what they face. An elegant solution to the problem of how to respond, with nobody dying. I call that a pretty good move.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stilicho provided the answer, OP.
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Junior



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stilicho25 wrote:
An elegant solution to the problem of how to respond, with nobody dying.


....except for 46 sailors.

I'd call it a victory for NK. They just learned they can get away with anything and the worst that will happen is "sabre-rattling".
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mises



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
seems to me that the money could be spent on things to benefit US citizens better.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/world_news_america/8843539.stm

Yes, the money has much better uses.
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The Happy Warrior



Joined: 10 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:44 pm    Post subject: Re: current US military sabre rattling in Korea Reply with quote

Mikejelai wrote:
Any other US citizens here in Korea embarrased/upset by the show of force going on here now? Aircraft carriers, Hillary, Bill Gates, etc. Such a financial waste; seems to me that the money could be spent on things to benefit US citizens better.



An arguably proportional response might be retaliation. But instead, the Americans and South Koreans undertake military joint exercises, which are not offensive in nature, and this upsets/embarasses you? Or do you think its unreasonable that at this point and time, the Americans and South Koreans want to demonstrate solidarity and the ability to defend the peninsula? I mean, there are only 50 million Koreans at stake, not to mention the handful of foreigners who live in Korea! Korea is only the 11th largest economy in the world!

stilicho25 wrote:
The norks just sank a South Korean warship and killed some of her crew. Instead of declaring a war, or taking military action, BO used this opportunity to make a show of strength, to remind the norks what they face. An elegant solution to the problem of how to respond, with nobody dying. I call that a pretty good move.


I agree. I am proud of the tone of Obama's and Lee's response on this. As an American, I'm finally so glad to have someone representing us on the world stage with a combination of balance, resolve, and proportion.
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djsmnc



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:52 pm    Post subject: Re: current US military sabre rattling in Korea Reply with quote

The Happy Warrior wrote:
As an American, I'm finally so glad to have someone representing us on the world stage with a combination of balance, resolve, and proportion.


President Lee?
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saram_



Joined: 13 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here we go again..

Pressure from the US and the rest of the international community and another threat from NK..

North Korea promises a physical response to the sanctions and drill demonstrations..
It is going to have to have to fulfill it's promise this time I think to be feared again.....

So, when is this thing going to kick off!!??
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Robert23



Joined: 19 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not the most pleasant response, flexing our muscles to possibly provoke a war. But I'm hard pressed to think of better one. North Korea and China still have serious doubts that the evidence points to North Korea for the sinking of the Cheonan--we need to work that out so it's undeniable.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't think of any better way to show China and North Korea who the boss is.


Personally, I'd prefer to have the GW Aircraft Carrier group parked outside of Incheon, with their gun batteries and tomahawk missles all within range of vital targets in NK and China.
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No what bothers me is that North Korea is still North Korea and Red China is still Red China
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brickabrack



Joined: 17 May 2010

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The norks just sank a South Korean warship and killed some of her crew."

maybe.

"I'm finally so glad to have someone representing us on the world stage with a combination of balance, resolve, and proportion."

Who?

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I suppose the recent presence is really the only way to give people the perception of a 'we're not gonna take it' attitude. I understand the move.
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