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bacasper



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:15 pm    Post subject: Abused to protest museum honoring MJ Reply with quote

Even if he had been convicted at trial, what would that have to do with his being the greatest dancer of all time (at least according to Fred Astaire)?

Michael Jackson museum induction to be hit by protests

By Gavin Wilson Jun 27, 2010, 18:55 GMT

Michael Jackson's induction into a US museum will be overshadowed by protests by child abuse survivors.

The singer is set to be inducted into the National Museum of Dance & Hall of Fame in New York in August for his contribution to dance.

But a group that represents people molested as children plans to disrupt the celebration by demonstrating outside the Saratoga Springs venue.

Jackson, who died on June 25, 2009, at the age of 50, was acquitted of child sex abuse charges in 2005.

'Most often a not-guilty verdict means a wealthy defendant had enough money to buy a verdict of 'reasonable doubt',' wrote John Aretakis and the Reverend Robert Hoatson of the group, Road to Recovery Inc, in a letter to the museum

'We know your Hall of Fame may do good work and is trying to secure state and national notoriety, media coverage and significant donations. However, to do so on the backs of childhood survivors of sexual abuse by honouring a paedophile is not a good business decision.'

Donna Skiff, a spokeswoman for the museum, told a US newspaper: 'We are honouring him for his dance and not for his lifestyle.'
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young_clinton



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He was acquitted. The people involved in the charges against Jackson were not believed by the jury. So how does anybody know he was a child molester? I don't care how weird Micheal Jackson was and the weird things he did.
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recessiontime



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:
He was acquitted. The people involved in the charges against Jackson were not believed by the jury. So how does anybody know he was a child molester? I don't care how weird Micheal Jackson was and the weird things he did.


Ultimately we may never know. Just because a court ruled someone guilty doesn't always mean he is and vice-versa.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:
He was acquitted. The people involved in the charges against Jackson were not believed by the jury. So how does anybody know he was a child molester? I don't care how weird Micheal Jackson was and the weird things he did.

He was acquitted in the only case that went to trial, and probably rightly so. But there is a whole host of other boys whom MJ befriended and bedded throughout his life who are documented in the recently published Michael Jackson's Dangerous Liaisons. Unfortunately, the publisher pulled out of its contract to distribute the book shortly before its publication date. It is, however, available through Amazon although the price seems to keep going up.

But I understand your point and that of the museum spokeswoman. His art and his private life can be considered separately.
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Steve_Rogers2008



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

he was convicted in the court of public opinion.... let's face it, he was a pedophile, and a homosexual one at that.


his delusions of his immortality caught up to him, in a major way. shopping for docs and drugs brought the man-child to his logical conclusion. I mean, could anyone see this fruit as a senior citizen? Shocked


Somewhere, he is 'blowing bubbles,' and giggling with the chonsas... Wink
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve_Rogers2008 wrote:
he was convicted in the court of public opinion.... let's face it, he was a pedophile, and a homosexual one at that.


I must have missed that conviction.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve_Rogers2008 wrote:
he was convicted in the court of public opinion.... let's face it, he was a pedophile, and a homosexual one at that.

So, it's better to be a heterosexual pedophile?
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Leon



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Steve_Rogers2008 wrote:
he was convicted in the court of public opinion.... let's face it, he was a pedophile, and a homosexual one at that.


I must have missed that conviction.


If he wasn't a pedophile than he sure went out of his way to convince people other wise. If I had a kid than I sure wouldn't want him to sleep in the same bed as a strange man.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leon wrote:
If he wasn't a pedophile than he sure went out of his way to convince people other wise. If I had a kid than I sure wouldn't want him to sleep in the same bed as a strange man.

He wasn't a stranger. All the families knew him. Or do you mean that in the sense of an "unusual person"?

Anyway, do you think all the parents who allowed it (even after the 1993 allegations broke) did not care about their kids?
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Leon



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
Leon wrote:
If he wasn't a pedophile than he sure went out of his way to convince people other wise. If I had a kid than I sure wouldn't want him to sleep in the same bed as a strange man.

He wasn't a stranger. All the families knew him. Or do you mean that in the sense of an "unusual person"?


Both. If I remember correctly some of the kids he "slept" with came from different charities and foundations so I don't think that the parents necessarily knew him well. Besides I wouldn't want my hypothetical child sleeping in the same bed as any grown man.

bacasper wrote:
Anyway, do you think all the parents who allowed it (even after the 1993 allegations broke) did not care about their kids?


No, but I would say misguided. Again if I had a child I wouldn't want them having grown up playmates and spending the night at their house. It would be different if they were going over to play with blanket or the other two kids, but they were there for Michael.
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