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thats what she said
Joined: 13 Jun 2008
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 Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:20 am Post subject: SMOE- Apostilled Diploma? |
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What up everybody, long time listener, first time caller.
For SMOE, is it really necessary to send an apostilled original diploma? I thought it was only required if sending a copied diploma (it's easier for me to get a replacement diploma than it would be to get the dam thing apostilled, plus I'm pissed my recruiter didn't tell me about it when I was there to get my crc).
Can anyone help me with this? |
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eac02
Joined: 23 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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You need to get it apostilled. They might accept a copy for now but you are going to have to provide them with the apostilled version sooner or later.
I don't have my diploma yet (it won't arrive for a few weeks) so I was asked to get a letter verifying my graduation from my advisor and was told that I must bring the apostilled diploma to my consulate interview.
If you find a way around it I'd love to hear how! |
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jcan
Joined: 08 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I thought SMOE didn't require an interview at the consulate? |
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Clemmens
Joined: 25 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't have my diploma yet (it won't arrive for a few weeks) so I was asked to get a letter verifying my graduation from my advisor and was told that I must bring the apostilled diploma to my consulate interview. |
Sounds like you and I are in the same boat, only my diploma won't be arriving until Sept. Anyone know if it'd be possible to get a visa with nothing but an apostilled letter verifying graduation? And when the diploma arrives, post-visa-issuance, get it apostilled and send it to immigration? Anyone heard of stories along these lines? My recruiter said that it'd be no problem, but I'd feel a hell of a lot better if I could hear from someone who's actually done it. SMOE requested transcripts, which I sent to them, so I hope that will be adequate proof of my graduation. We will see, though. |
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EzeWong
Joined: 26 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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According to my recruiter it's now impossible to get an approved visa without an appossitled or original degree.
It seems like this is really beans to us. but it seems that the programs are up in arms becuase of the many fake diplomas appearing.
BTW. I just learned this today. Before you go get apossitled by the secretary of state you HAVE to get it notarized first by any bank or notary. Annoying as it is, they won't do it without it. |
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eac02
Joined: 23 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| jcan wrote: |
| I thought SMOE didn't require an interview at the consulate? |
You might be right, I reread the email from my recruiter and he said to just bring the apostilled diploma with me to korea. He didn't mention anything about an interview, my mistake.
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| SMOE requested transcripts, which I sent to them, so I hope that will be adequate proof of my graduation. |
It wasn't enough for me. I even forwarded a message from my advisor explaining that my graduation is confirmed at the end of the transcripts but they still wanted the letter from him.
I understand why SMOE/ immigration require the apostille what I don't understand is why it takes my school so f-ing long to print and mail diplomas. I graduated May 18th and won't get my stupid diploma until the 3rd or 4th week of July!?!  |
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Clemmens
Joined: 25 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| According to my recruiter it's now impossible to get an approved visa without an appossitled or original degree. |
I totally hope that you are wrong, man. No offense. My recruiter has been telling me that an official, notarized letter verifying graduation with an apostille would be sufficient until I received my official diploma. But after reading the countless posts about recruiters on this blog I'm starting to question the recruiter. Not so much that they're trying to screw me over, but that they're probably just as much in the dark about official procedures as I am.
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| It wasn't enough for me. I even forwarded a message from my advisor explaining that my graduation is confirmed at the end of the transcripts but they still wanted the letter from him. |
So are you saying that the letter from your advisor was enough to tide over SMOE/Immigration until you received your diploma? Have you received your visa papers or your visa yet? I swear, there are way too many cooks in the Korea ESL kitchen. I feel schizophrenic with so many voices being shouted from every possible direction. |
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Kiarell
Joined: 29 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I got a job at public school, and a sealed copy of my degree with a notarization, not officiated by the county clerk, and not apostille-ized. It went through fine. When I got my ARC, though, I had to present my original diploma. |
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mochilover
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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i don't have my degree yet.
in fact, i'll be receiving mine in mid november, as i'm still in the middle of completing summer school.
my recruiter said i could just mail her a notarized letter from the school along with my transcripts, in order to get the visa. i still feel a bit worried though. i haven't heard anyone got their E-2 visa without having their original degree (or a notarized copy of it) in hand! |
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Kiarell
Joined: 29 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| i don't know what to say. I was able to get recruited and offered a job before I had my degree. I later sent my degree to the recruiter and then got a contract. But I don't know if he had the contract in hand before I sent my finished degree. You might be stuck without a definite answer. You can call the school, your recruiter, your local ROK consulate, the ROK embassy, and KIS and they will ALL GIVE YOU DIFFERENT ANSWERS. And then you finally get over here, and you think to yourself "good thing I decided to bring X and Y, because the people at Immigration are being dicks over this green card application process." |
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Ut videam
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: Pocheon-si, Gyeonggi-do
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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A certificate of degree(Applicants may choose one of the following)
- Original copy of the diploma (will be returned to the applicant after making a copy and having it sealed as a legitimate copy)
- Copy of the diploma (verified by the Korean consulate or attached with documents verifying highest education, issued by �Korean Council for University Education�)
- Certificate of academic degree issued by the relevant university. (Affixed with an apostille or attached with documents verifying highest education, issued by domestic verification agency)
- Certificate of graduation that lists acquisition of diploma (Affixed with apostille or attached with documents verifying highest education, issued by domestic verification agency)
※ Nationals of countries that have not signed the apostille treaty must get verification from the local Korean consulate or attach documents verifying highest education, issued by domestic verification agency
※ According to regulations, suppose that a foreigner already submitted documents verifying the highest level of education that was issued by a domestic verification agency (�Korean Council for University Education�) when he/she has applied for visa issuance certificate. In such case, they will be exempted from having to submit documents that prove their education level again if they need to apply for Foreign Language Instructor (E-2) visa or visa issuance certificate. |
http://www.hikorea.go.kr/pt/InfoDetailR_en.pt?categoryId=2&parentId=382&catSeq=385&showMenuId=374&visaId=E2 |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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My diploma is apostilled by "THE GOD".
If immi doesn't accept "THE GOD" apostille, they'll be focked. |
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PokerZero
Joined: 30 Apr 2006
Location: theultimatetrek.com/forum
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:41 am Post subject: |
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I've just received an email from my recruiter advising me about the need for an Apostille on my diploma, the only problem is I sent my original degree to Korea with my police check etc.
Can anyone confirm whether SMOE will accept my original degree (which my recruiter has) without an Apostille as it is the original and not a copy?
Obviously I have emailed my recruiter explaining the situation but because of the time difference I doubt I'll get a reply until tomorrow. |
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Ut videam
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: Pocheon-si, Gyeonggi-do
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:13 am Post subject: |
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| I can't speak to what SMOE requires, but I can assure you that Korean Immigration absolutely does not require an apostille on an original diploma. The text of the regulation is quoted earlier in this thread. |
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losing_touch
Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Location: Ulsan - I think!
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:28 am Post subject: |
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| I also cannot speak about SMOE specifically, but I can say that this is not a requirement from my own research. I have just sent my original degree to Korea myself. There was no mention of such a requirement with my hagwon. |
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