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Training myself in math again, need good learning s/w

 
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cisco kid



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: Outlaws had us pinned down at the fort

PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:47 pm    Post subject: Training myself in math again, need good learning s/w Reply with quote

First off, let me tell you about how bad I was at math.

I was never very good at math, because I hated it and I didn't put enough effort into learning the language. I majored in Speech/Rhetoric Communication (toilet paper degree) and now I'm thinking about retraining myself in math. If I study on my own for a year, I think I can get myself back up to a level where I won't have to retake a bunch of lower level classes all over again.

This is my total math experience:

remedial math basics
pre-algebra
college algebra
finite math
business calculus (2x failed once, D the second time)


So what I want to do is study at home, maybe online or with s/w, and bring myself up to calculus level so I can go back to school and get an engineering degree. I know now that even though I never liked math, I am capable of doing it if I put enough effort into it.

What I don't want to do if I can help it, is sit through Textbooks of math. So I'm looking for an alternative in s/w or websites.


Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang

PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been contemplating the same thing.

My ability stretches as far as the multiplication table up to 12, pretty much so I have a long way, but I don't plan on pursuing for many years. But My interest in Physics is so high and true that I have to learn maths if I want a true understanding.

Not that this helps but it's good to know someone else is going to go through the torture before me.
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youtuber



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What I don't want to do if I can help it, is sit through Textbooks of math


As a math major, let me tell you that if you want to learn math, textbooks are necessary. So is tons of practice.

And if you want to learn engineering....more textbooks.

Are you sure you want to study engineering? Or are you just chasing opportunities? Getting an eng degree is a very time consuming and expensive proposition....

You could consider studying at a smaller uni (like Grant MacEwan) and then transfer to a larger uni. They offer precalculus courses to bring you up to speed. And the cost would be cheaper for transferring.

If you are motivated, you can do it. Just ask yourself if you want to do it. There are tons of Chinese nationals at my uni (UofA) that study their brains out, 24/7. That is who you will be competing against and it won't be fun.

Here are some online sites:

mathworld.wolfram.com
www.explorelearning.com
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Dazed and Confused



Joined: 10 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm currently studying math too. Not because I want to be an engineer but because I'd like to take the GRE and go to grad school eventually. I got a textbook from the states and then found a bright engineering student to exchange English lessons with. I've had 3 so far and 2 have worked out just fine. One wanted help on his grad school applications to US schools and the other wanted to improve his TOEIC & OPIC scores. The third was a total flake and I'll probably look for someone else soon.
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cisco kid



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: Outlaws had us pinned down at the fort

PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

youtuber wrote:
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What I don't want to do if I can help it, is sit through Textbooks of math


As a math major, let me tell you that if you want to learn math, textbooks are necessary. So is tons of practice.

And if you want to learn engineering....more textbooks.

Are you sure you want to study engineering? Or are you just chasing opportunities? Getting an eng degree is a very time consuming and expensive proposition....

You could consider studying at a smaller uni (like Grant MacEwan) and then transfer to a larger uni. They offer precalculus courses to bring you up to speed. And the cost would be cheaper for transferring.

If you are motivated, you can do it. Just ask yourself if you want to do it. There are tons of Chinese nationals at my uni (UofA) that study their brains out, 24/7. That is who you will be competing against and it won't be fun.

Here are some online sites:

mathworld.wolfram.com
www.explorelearning.com



Thanks for the link. Let me ask you a question. If I'm doing a review of everything up to say Algebra 2, or College Algebra, how much time should I sink into all the math that comes before those two courses? Just a ballpark figure please.

How many textbooks do I need to work through before I start to tackle the algebras? I appreciate everyone else's responses as well.

One more thing...when I was in college, I didn't put enough time into studying math because I had other subjects to study and I was interested in reading more about other things. What I'm trying to say is that NOW I would only study math, so there wouldn't be all those other distractions I had when I was in school.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I failed math at GCSE level (16 yrs old).
I gained entry into A-levels on the condition that I would re-take maths and pass it before i graduated.
However I switched A-level schools in the 2nd term and they didn't bother to check.
Thus I became probably one of the few to pass 3 A-levels without having ever passed maths.
my university admitted me on the basis of those A-levels..then i got my Bachelors degree.

Just wondering-If I want to do a MA, will I have to first go back and take school-level maths again?
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Engineering is math heavy. In one year (2 semesters) you'll probably have to take 11 or 12 course. Most majors only take 10 courses in 2 semesters. And of the 11, or 12, courses 8 of them will require a solid foundation in advanced math. I'd say the first 2 years is probably the most math intensive, while the last 2 years you'll use just portions of what you learned the first 2 years.

If you're insistent in engineering I'd recommend going into civil engineering. Society will always do some kind of construction. Although it isn't the sexiest field, it's the oldest, least popular, the most fundamental and stable field. And some engineers may consider it the easiest of the engineering branches.

As someone mentioned you'll be studying a lot. Not only are there highly motivated foreign students, but the top 20% type students that got straight A's through high school without even trying. And a lot of those students don't make it past their 1st year. 80% of students will be working on labs, assignments, studying and working on reports virtually 24/7. And the job market isn't what it used be like, a lot of people with engineering degrees are underemployed. Also, the burnout rate for some fields of engineering is high. It makes teaching look like a walk in the park. It isn't fun.
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