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perkxplosion



Joined: 18 Jan 2010
Location: gogo's. you know know.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:23 pm    Post subject: military in itaewon Reply with quote

So I just had a really great night in Itaewon (or was). I met a lot of great people from various parts of the military. Anyway, to keep it simple it was my friend's going away party and she left. I was by no means biligerant and i was threatened by a marine that if i didn't leave he would 'make me leave.' I wasn't imposing on anything, actually showing then how to get to a bar. At this point it was late and i had no backup nor would i attempt to instigate anything. Anyway, most of the military i have met have been great guys, I'm just pretty pissed about this incident. i guess i just don't really know what else to say. I guess any military who are good guys thank you. I understand that being in the military isn't always a choice, but please don't be threatening for no reason.
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mcviking



Joined: 24 Mar 2009
Location: 'Fantastic' America

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a jar head for ya. Don't take it personally, I am sure with alcohol anyone would have done that. An area that is notorious for binge drinking and hooking up with whatever moves is bound to have an asshat or two in its ranks. Just be glad it didn't escalate.
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J Rock



Joined: 17 Jan 2009
Location: The center of the Earth, Suji

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm guessing he was probably wasted because that was a total D-bag move. I've never had a soldier make an aggressive move on me but I totally believe that could happen in a late night situation.

I really want to trust in the U.S. military but when they make bone head moves like this it makes me mad. Sorry you had to go through this, it's usually not typical of U.S. soldiers to do this (in my experience) but it is known to happen once in a while.
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conrad2



Joined: 05 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:37 pm    Post subject: Re: military in itaewon Reply with quote

I understand that being in the military isn't always a choice

The US military is an all volunteer force, so it is always a choice for them. This is very common behavior for soldiers in Itaewon- i see it most nights I go there.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:42 pm    Post subject: Re: military in itaewon Reply with quote

conrad2 wrote:

The US military is an all volunteer force, so it is always a choice for them. This is very common behavior for soldiers in Itaewon- i see it most nights I go there.


It's a very good choice for a lot of Americans in order to have job security, education in the military and assistance for higher education out of the military, and it plays a necessary part of the US's infrastructure.
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Wiltern



Joined: 23 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:14 pm    Post subject: Re: military in itaewon Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
it plays a necessary part of the US's infrastructure.


it plays a necessary part in US's imperial interests.

fixed it for you.
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mc_jc



Joined: 13 Aug 2009
Location: C4B- Cp Red Cloud, Area-I

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
it plays a necessary part in US's imperial interests.

How?
What "imperial interests"
I guess the British government has no stakes in BP or their monopoly on oil exploration- this could also be seen as "economic exploitation". So the US is not the only country involved in modern-day imperialism.

Boneheads are boneheads the world over. I have met d*ckhead teachers who instigate trouble and try to talk their way out of it. I worked with many d*ckhead officers and soldiers when I was assigned in Korea who would talk the talk and then walk the walk if need be.
But in it all, those are the rotten apples that spoil the bushel. There are way more nice and educated guys serving in the military than these bozos.
As for marines...hehehehe...we secretly call them "the special ed" branch of the US Armed Forces Razz

You also need to remember that >70% of the military is or has been deployed at least 2 or 3 times to a combat zone during their initial enlistment. PTSD is ripe in the ranks right now.

Also, as another poster has mentioned, it is a "voluntary" job, not mandatory like Koreans.
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perkxplosion



Joined: 18 Jan 2010
Location: gogo's. you know know.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i guess what gets me about people like that in general (military or not) is why they don't understand how obtuse and ignorant they make themselves look...? I hate to be the movie quote guy but "the loudest man in the room is the smallest man." (american gangster) is so true. i'm all about fights if there is a legit reason but trying to start one to make yourself feel like you're not a douche, let alone when you are surrounded by your buddies, is rediculous.
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mc_jc



Joined: 13 Aug 2009
Location: C4B- Cp Red Cloud, Area-I

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is simply alcohol.
Alcohol makes people do and say stupid things.
I am all for having a drink or two, but a lot of people, no matter who they are or where they work, tend to go overboard when they binge drink.
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Claytron



Joined: 16 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[/quote]
But in it all, those are the rotten apples that spoil the bushel. There are way more nice and educated guys serving in the military than these bozos.
As for marines...hehehehe...we secretly call them "the special ed" branch of the US Armed Forces Razz

You also need to remember that >70% of the military is or has been deployed at least 2 or 3 times to a combat zone during their initial enlistment. PTSD is ripe in the ranks right now.

Also, as another poster has mentioned, it is a "voluntary" job, not mandatory like Koreans.[/quote]

? Rolling Eyes
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mc_jc



Joined: 13 Aug 2009
Location: C4B- Cp Red Cloud, Area-I

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MOD EDIT

Quote:
? Rolling Eyes

What's so hard to understand?
Aren't you educated and have a 4-year degree that's supposed to proves you can deduct reasoning and logical rationale to interpret comments?
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conrad2



Joined: 05 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mc_jc wrote:
MOD EDIT

Quote:
? Rolling Eyes

What's so hard to understand?
Aren't you educated and have a 4-year degree that's supposed to proves you can deduct reasoning and logical rationale to interpret comments?


I hope for your sake that you were being facetious or ironic while writing that drivel.
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Skipperoo



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounded perfectly reasonable and level-headed to me.
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conrad2



Joined: 05 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skipperoo wrote:
Sounded perfectly reasonable and level-headed to me.


really? Care to explain to us what it means to "deduct reasoning".
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Skipperoo



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, I was referring to the previous post you rolled your eyes at inexplicably. I assumed you were too.
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