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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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 Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:55 am Post subject: Roman Polanski siezed on 31 yr-old US Arrest warrant |
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ZURICH � Director Roman Polanski was arrested by Swiss police for possible extradition to the United States for having sex in 1977 with a 13-year-old girl, authorities said Sunday.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,556141,00.html |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:08 am Post subject: |
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But his life was shattered again in 1969 when his wife, actress Sharon Tate, and four other people were gruesomely murdered by followers of Charles Manson. She was eight months pregnant.
He went on to make another American classic, "Chinatown," released in 1974.
In 1977, he was accused of raping the teenager while photographing her during a modeling session. The girl said Polanski plied her with champagne and part of a Quaalude pill at Jack Nicholson's house while the actor was away. She said that, despite her protests, he performed oral sex, intercourse and sodomy on her.
Polanski was allowed to plead guilty to one of six charges, unlawful sexual intercourse, and was sent to prison for 42 days of evaluation.
Lawyers agreed that would be his full sentence, but the judge tried to renege on the plea bargain. Aware the judge would sentence him to more prison time and require his voluntary deportation, Polanski fled to France.
The victim, Samantha Geimer, who long ago identified herself publicly, has joined in Polanski's bid for dismissal, saying she wants the case to be over. She sued Polanski and reached an undisclosed settlement. |
The judge is guilty of judicial misconduct.
The victim wants the case dropped.
The US system is out of control. This man should be left alone. |
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richardlang
Joined: 21 Jan 2007
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:43 am Post subject: |
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It seems like a reasonable arrest, despite the victim wishing for the case to be dismissed. She got an out of court settlement from Polanski after he pleaded guilty to a lesser charge (i.e. engaging in unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor) in a plea bargain. He was given 90 days to finish a film project while awaiting his entrance to prison. He subsequently fled to London and then onto France where he had the luxury of not being extraditable to the U.S.
It's all laid out at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polanski
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:44 am Post subject: |
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| ontheway wrote: |
| The victim wants the case dropped. |
...Because she already recieved settlement money out of court. This sounds a more and more like the Korean legal system.Its a corruption of justice in my view.
How about criminals serve sentences rather than be allowed to pay their way out? It is the state that is suing him, not the woman. Long may it be so.
This is what is needed in korea. A rapist should face a penalty wether or not the accuser files charges .
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| The US system is out of control. This man should be left alone. |
Actually I find it a kind of relief that the US goes to such lengths to pursue justice. The fact the guy is a celeb or that the crime is decades old is of no importance. If only other countries had such a zeal to uphold law as the US. |
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ManintheMiddle
Joined: 20 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:45 am Post subject: |
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ontheway sputtered:
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| The US system is out of control. This man should be left alone. |
Yes, the system shouldn't assiduously apply the law, especially when it involves the downtrodden of society, which Hollywood directors of Polanski's ilk clearly are. Better to give them a slap on the wrist and a pat on the bum, as in so many Western European countries. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:30 am Post subject: |
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In 2008, Geimer stated in an interview that she wishes Polanski would be forgiven, "I think he's sorry, I think he knows it was wrong. I don't think he's a danger to society. I don't think he needs to be locked up forever and no one has ever come out ever - besides me - and accused him of anything. It was 30 years ago now. It's an unpleasant memory ... (but) I can live with it."
In 2008, a documentary film of the aftermath of the incident, Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired, premiered at the Sundance Film Festival. Following review of the film, Polanski's attorney, Douglas Dalton, contacted the Los Angeles district attorney's office about prosecutor David Wells' role in coaching judge Rittenband. Based on statements by Wells included in the film, Polanski and Dalton are seeking review of whether the prosecutor acted illegally and engaged in malfeasance in interfering with the operation of the trial.
In December 2008, Polanski's lawyer in the United States filed a request to Judge David S. Wesley to have the case dismissed on the grounds of judicial and prosecutorial misconduct. The filing says that Judge Rittenband (now deceased) violated the plea bargain by keeping in communication about the case with a deputy district attorney who was not involved. These activities were depicted in Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired.
In January 2009, Polanski's lawyer filed a further request to have the case dismissed, and to have the case moved out of Los Angeles, as the Los Angeles courts require him to appear before the court for any sentencing or dismissal, and Polanski will not appear. In February 2009, Polanski's request was tentatively denied by Judge Peter Espinoza, who said that he would make a ruling if Polanski appeared in court.[37][38]
That same month, Samantha Geimer filed to have the charges against Polanski dismissed from court, saying that decades of publicity as well as the prosecutor's focus on lurid details continues to traumatize her and her family. |
It is the State that is continuing to victimize Samantha Geimer. The rights of the victim must be paramount over the ambitions of the factotums of the state. The victim must be allowed her right to end the prosecution.
Judicial corruption and victim's rights are the big issues in this case. Polanski should be left alone.
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What other director's are of Polanski's ilk? Is there a club that such Hollywood Director's all belong to?
Must be the Fraternal Order of the Ilk. |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Judicial misconduct? Judges are not obligated to respect plea agreements. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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| As for the victim wanting to drop the case, it's a little late for that, isn't it? Polanski has already pled guilty to the crime itself. At the time he fled the USA, he was simply awaiting the sentence, which is presumably what he'll get now if he's extradited back. |
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ytuque
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| The only judicial misconduct was allowing a pedophile to flee the country rather than lock him up. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| On the other hand wrote: |
| As for the victim wanting to drop the case, it's a little late for that, isn't it? Polanski has already pled guilty to the crime itself. At the time he fled the USA, he was simply awaiting the sentence, which is presumably what he'll get now if he's extradited back. |
She wants it dropped because of the trauma of seeing her horrible experience written about and discussed in the media in lurid detail yet again and yet again. That must be pretty horrible for her, and those who love her, to have to deal with. |
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Bondrock
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| Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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A number of (high profile) folks have publicly said that they are appalled at his arrest...
I am appalled that he has been free these past 30 years. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Bondrock wrote: |
A number of (high profile) folks have publicly said that they are appalled at his arrest...
I am appalled that he has been free these past 30 years. |
I agree. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| I am sure imprisonment will inspire him to make better movie scripts. It will be good for the industry. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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She wants it dropped because of the trauma of seeing her horrible experience written about and discussed in the media in lurid detail yet again and yet again. That must be pretty horrible for her, and those who love her, to have to deal with. |
That's pretty selfish of her on many counts. He not only needs to be punished for what he did, but society must also have its pound of flesh. Considering also that this punishment will undoubtedly serve as a deterrent to others and that the public needs to watch the justice unfold before its eyes, I believe we can safely say this is being handled appropriately.
Hot chocolate, anyone? |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
| Big_Bird wrote: |
She wants it dropped because of the trauma of seeing her horrible experience written about and discussed in the media in lurid detail yet again and yet again. That must be pretty horrible for her, and those who love her, to have to deal with. |
That's pretty selfish of her on many counts. He not only needs to be punished for what he did, but society must also have its pound of flesh. Considering also that this punishment will undoubtedly serve as a deterrent to others and that the public needs to watch the justice unfold before its eyes, I believe we can safely say this is being handled appropriately.
Hot chocolate, anyone? |
I agree that he needs to be punished, and to be seen to be punished.
But calling a former child rape victim selfish for wanting to be able to put something so horrendous behind her (something that happened 31 years ago) is a bit cheeky.
btw: I don't understand your reference to hot chocolate. Perhaps you can spell it out for us? |
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