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70 Korean kids abandoned in kibbutz

 
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:39 am    Post subject: 70 Korean kids abandoned in kibbutz Reply with quote

Kibbutzim have hagwons?

Korean kids on program in Israel left abandoned

August 12, 2010

About 70 Korean children were found abandoned in an Israeli kibbutz, according to a report there.

The incident, which happened last week, is raising concern among parents who are considering sending their children to programs overseas.

Locals found the children, aged 7 to 9, wandering in several groups around areas near the desert and seeking water, food and a place to sleep, the newspaper Maariv reported.

The locals fed the children and provided sleeping arrangements before reporting the case to the Korean Embassy in Israel, it said.

The paper said the children had been sent to Israel as part of a pilgrimage education program run by a Korean company, but the group ran into trouble because of mismanagement by the program�s operator.

The paper reported that the children came to Israel via Jordan and arrived at the kibbutz by bus. The Korean children�s guide, who had only provided them with camping equipment and basic necessities, sent them off on their own, saying they would be welcomed at any kibbutz.

A kibbutz official told the newspaper that it is incomprehensible how the Korean children could have been delivered to the area under the care of guides who knew neither English nor Hebrew.

A government source confirmed the case. A travel agency the children used for the program denied responsibility, saying it was only in charge of buying plane tickets for them.
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Kikomom



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy moly! If this is true...

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The Korean children�s guide, who had only provided them with camping equipment and basic necessities, sent them off on their own, saying they would be welcomed at any kibbutz.

Seven to nine year olds expected to camp on their own or find their way to a kibbutz--like they know what that is???
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djsmnc



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha I can so see this. The operator probably wanted a trip to Israel so set up a scam to send kids on an adventurous trip. Except when people started paying the money and preparing, he couldn't back out. Had to wait til he got to Israel and could dump the kids. There are books and movies made about stuff like this!
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makemischief



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Korean friend read the article (Korean version)- not even 7-9 years old in the western sense, but 7-9 Korean age. D@MN. So kids aged 5-8 camping in a country they've never been to with no parents and one poorly prepared guide sounded like a good idea? I'd love to see what the actual sales pitch was on that.
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue

PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

makemischief wrote:
My Korean friend read the article (Korean version)- not even 7-9 years old in the western sense, but 7-9 Korean age. D@MN. So kids aged 5-8 camping in a country they've never been to with no parents and one poorly prepared guide sounded like a good idea? I'd love to see what the actual sales pitch was on that.


My guess would be that the tour guide was one of those people who reads something in a book about a foreign place, and assumes that this one anecdotal factoid is the be-all-and-end-all about that place. So he/she read that kibbutzes are friendly places that will welcome anyone who comes in, and then just assumed that kids can wander safely around the area and get help from the locals.
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supernick



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A kibbutz official told the newspaper that it is incomprehensible how the Korean children could have been delivered to the area under the care of guides who knew neither English nor Hebrew.

If this guy knew anything about Korea, he wold soon learn that these this are in fact comprehensible. At first I was shocked by this but now I am mostly amused.

I sure do feel sorry for the kids, but why would the parents allow their young children to go?
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Junior



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
then just assumed that kids can wander safely around the area and get help from the locals.


Korea has a tradition of everyone looking after random unrelated children. Its like a giant group-creche.

Its not hard to see why Koreans assume everywhere else to be the same.
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Kikomom



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to wonder too if these kids had ever been camping before? Did any of them even know how to pitch a tent?
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caniff



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: 70 Korean kids abandoned in kibbutz Reply with quote

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but the group ran into trouble because of mismanagement by the program�s operator.


OMG, I think I used to work for this guy!

(actually, most of probably have at one time or another)
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Summer Wine



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:14 am Post subject: Re: 70 Korean kids abandoned in kibbutz

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but the group ran into trouble because of mismanagement by the program�s operator.


OMG, I think I used to work for this guy!

(actually, most of probably have at one time or another)


Laughing
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Jane



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm...last time I went walking through the Negev desert, I had a guide and a body guard armed with a machine gun. Shocked

These kids could have ended up in a bad predicament.

By the way, 'kibbutzim' is the plural of 'kibbutz'.
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