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GoldMember
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spicy
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how about comparing crime statistics between korea and the US? one might argue that maybe american cops have too much power?
though a police spirra might be pretty cool. basically the korean equivalent to germany's 911 carrera S or italy's police gallardo (that was recently crashed). |
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jvalmer
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| How many guys can realistically sustain a high speed chase in Korea? Even the most rural parts of Korea have too much traffic for the design of the roads. And if the suspect decided to take the chase onto secondary roads he'd be ditched within minutes. |
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blackjack
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Location: anyang
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| Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:44 pm Post subject: Re: Korean Police Cars |
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Well it seems perfect for Korea. Fuel efficient and small |
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georgeperec
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madoka
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Radius
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
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| i wonder if they'll ever let me be a cop in Korea. |
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kimchi_pizza
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Location: "Get back on the bus! Here it comes!"
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I've seen one of those drive by my place today. Nothing wrong with it. Quite frankly, the U.S. can learn something from them rather than becoming a quasi-military force with their combat boots and batman belts.
Personally, the U.S. needs to go back to walk'
n the beat, more face-to-face time with the locals and even wearing those ole'school buckets on their heads with only a night stick by their sides. Sure would help'em lose weight since a number of them are overweight (and that's put'n it nicely!).
Go back to being a officer of the peace as it should be.
Keep in mind I used to drive in one'a those suped up cars with combat boots and a batman belt. |
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Wishmaster
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| Yeah, well don't take too many potshots at the US. Guarantee you that if people(other than the military) could have guns, the crime rate in Korea would be sky high. I mean, the sheer murder committed on road rage in this place would be massive. And high speed chases...yeah, too crowded for those. As a result, Korea's force doesn't need speed demon cars and militant cops. |
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hellofaniceguy
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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| Wishmaster wrote: |
| Yeah, well don't take too many potshots at the US. Guarantee you that if people(other than the military) could have guns, the crime rate in Korea would be sky high. I mean, the sheer murder committed on road rage in this place would be massive. And high speed chases...yeah, too crowded for those. As a result, Korea's force doesn't need speed demon cars and militant cops. |
I disagree....if someone is going to kill someone...they will do it with or without a gun.
Many times of course, a gun makes it easier to commit a crime, but many crimes are done without a gun.
Korea has thousands of people in prison for murder without killing someone using a gun!
Now sure, the U.S. has more people in prison...it also has one of the largest populations also!
Someone posted...if koreans had guns the crime rate would go high.....well....koreans DO have guns. No all, but this country is full of illegal guns. I know hundreds and hundreds of koreans from over the years and the majority have a gun or two...of course, they are not suppose to.
And what's with the cops....many carry a gun but no bullets! Or wear holsters with no weapon! |
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blackjack
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang
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| Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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| hellofaniceguy wrote: |
| Wishmaster wrote: |
| Yeah, well don't take too many potshots at the US. Guarantee you that if people(other than the military) could have guns, the crime rate in Korea would be sky high. I mean, the sheer murder committed on road rage in this place would be massive. And high speed chases...yeah, too crowded for those. As a result, Korea's force doesn't need speed demon cars and militant cops. |
I disagree....if someone is going to kill someone...they will do it with or without a gun.
Many times of course, a gun makes it easier to commit a crime, but many crimes are done without a gun.
Korea has thousands of people in prison for murder without killing someone using a gun!
Now sure, the U.S. has more people in prison...it also has one of the largest populations also!
Someone posted...if koreans had guns the crime rate would go high.....well....koreans DO have guns. No all, but this country is full of illegal guns. I know hundreds and hundreds of koreans from over the years and the majority have a gun or two...of course, they are not suppose to.
And what's with the cops....many carry a gun but no bullets! Or wear holsters with no weapon! |
In response to population levels and incarceration rates
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate
USA 760 /100,000
SA 334/100,000
NZ 185/100,000
UK 152/100,000
Aust 129/100,000
SK 97/100,000
While this stat is quite amazing it is some what misleading as laws and sentencing varies from country to country. A better stat might be murder rate
USA 5.4/100,000
SK 2.18/100,000
The simple fact is it is easier to kill someone with a gun than it is with a knife, baseball bat or hands. It is quicker, less personal, less messy and simply easier.
Your claim that the majority of Koreans have guns. I'm sorry I just don't believe this. If you said most farmers have guns it might have a grain of truth. (However I still wouldn't believe it). Did you know it is a capital offense here? and while gun ownership is allowed, the gun must be kept at the police station.
How do you know that the gun has no bullets? Any way I for one love the fact that the police don't need guns here.
http://www.travelblog.org/Asia/South-Korea/Gyeonggi-do/Seongnam/Bundang/blog-125027.html While i don't agree with everything here and I don't think the relative safety here is solely caused by harsh gun laws, it is a nice read. |
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jvalmer
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| blackjack wrote: |
| http://www.travelblog.org/Asia/South-Korea/Gyeonggi-do/Seongnam/Bundang/blog-125027.html |
Interesting read. His bit about Korean cops lack of 'God mentality' is more due to Korea's recent past behavior of law enforcement then it has to do with lack of guns. |
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seoulsucker
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nathanrutledge
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| blackjack wrote: |
| hellofaniceguy wrote: |
| Wishmaster wrote: |
| Yeah, well don't take too many potshots at the US. Guarantee you that if people(other than the military) could have guns, the crime rate in Korea would be sky high. I mean, the sheer murder committed on road rage in this place would be massive. And high speed chases...yeah, too crowded for those. As a result, Korea's force doesn't need speed demon cars and militant cops. |
I disagree....if someone is going to kill someone...they will do it with or without a gun.
Many times of course, a gun makes it easier to commit a crime, but many crimes are done without a gun.
Korea has thousands of people in prison for murder without killing someone using a gun!
Now sure, the U.S. has more people in prison...it also has one of the largest populations also!
Someone posted...if koreans had guns the crime rate would go high.....well....koreans DO have guns. No all, but this country is full of illegal guns. I know hundreds and hundreds of koreans from over the years and the majority have a gun or two...of course, they are not suppose to.
And what's with the cops....many carry a gun but no bullets! Or wear holsters with no weapon! |
In response to population levels and incarceration rates
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate
USA 760 /100,000
SA 334/100,000
NZ 185/100,000
UK 152/100,000
Aust 129/100,000
SK 97/100,000
While this stat is quite amazing it is some what misleading as laws and sentencing varies from country to country. A better stat might be murder rate
USA 5.4/100,000
SK 2.18/100,000
The simple fact is it is easier to kill someone with a gun than it is with a knife, baseball bat or hands. It is quicker, less personal, less messy and simply easier.
Your claim that the majority of Koreans have guns. I'm sorry I just don't believe this. If you said most farmers have guns it might have a grain of truth. (However I still wouldn't believe it). Did you know it is a capital offense here? and while gun ownership is allowed, the gun must be kept at the police station.
How do you know that the gun has no bullets? Any way I for one love the fact that the police don't need guns here.
http://www.travelblog.org/Asia/South-Korea/Gyeonggi-do/Seongnam/Bundang/blog-125027.html While i don't agree with everything here and I don't think the relative safety here is solely caused by harsh gun laws, it is a nice read. |
Quoting wikipedia? :::face palm:::
It's not a capital offense to own a gun here. SK doesn't even enforce it's capital punishment system these days; they signed an international treaty against the death penalty a few years back, so while it's technically still the law, they don't enforce it.
You CAN own a gun in Korea and you CAN keep it in your home. One of my coworkers owned one. She carried it in her purse. As a gun owner back in the US, I was curious about the laws here. I asked her about owning a gun and she told me her husband had just bought one. I asked if it was kept at the police station. Her answer? "What good is a gun at the POLICE STATION?!?" My thoughts exactly.
Anyway, you have to fill out paperwork, but you can own a gun. There was a trap shooting range near my house in Hwaseong and I've seen the range in Danyang. The only gun I have not seen in person in Korea is a rifle. Handguns and shotguns are okay, rifles, I don't know. |
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shinramyun
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It's not a capital offense to own a gun here. SK doesn't even enforce it's capital punishment system these days; they signed an international treaty against the death penalty a few years back, so while it's technically still the law, they don't enforce it.
You CAN own a gun in Korea and you CAN keep it in your home. One of my coworkers owned one. She carried it in her purse. As a gun owner back in the US, I was curious about the laws here. I asked her about owning a gun and she told me her husband had just bought one. I asked if it was kept at the police station. Her answer? "What good is a gun at the POLICE STATION?!?" My thoughts exactly.
Anyway, you have to fill out paperwork, but you can own a gun. There was a trap shooting range near my house in Hwaseong and I've seen the range in Danyang. The only gun I have not seen in person in Korea is a rifle. Handguns and shotguns are okay, rifles, I don't know. |
LOL, you CAN NOT own a gun unless you are a person affiliated with police or army in south korea. ITS ILLEGAL AND ITS CONSIDERED CAPITAL OFFENSE IF YOU DO OWN IT. You disagree? Go ask your local korean police officer or any korean who knows gun control law. What you saw was a gas pistol. It's not a real pistol but it looks like one and it shoots gas instead of lead. |
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