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iain77
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:35 am Post subject: What type of curriculum does YBM/ECC generally use? |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:29 am Post subject: |
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I was at a YBM school 3 years ago.
The preschool class used a series which was based on Sesame Street.
I never could understand why, but in elementary school, different classes used different textbook series.
Some classes used Let's Go, which is a fairly good series.
Some classes used American English Today, which, for some reason, was published by the same publisher and was very similar to Let's Go. I understand that this series is no longer being published.
Some elementary classes used Parade. I never saw any way possible to teach out of that series. I secretly made a cross-index between Parade and the other two series. Whenever I had to teach out of Parade, I ran copies of the pages which covered the same material in the other two series.
Some of the middle school and adult classes used Side by Side. This is a cartoon-illustrated series containing drills.
My classes lasted for 55 minutes. For the first half of the class, I followed the textbook. For the second half, I used songs, games, and picture books of my own choice. |
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Mr. Pink

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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tomato wrote: |
I was at a YBM school 3 years ago.
The preschool class used a series which was based on Sesame Street.
I never could understand why, but in elementary school, different classes used different textbook series.
Some classes used Let's Go, which is a fairly good series.
Some classes used American English Today, which, for some reason, was published by the same publisher and was very similar to Let's Go. I understand that this series is no longer being published.
Some elementary classes used Parade. I never saw any way possible to teach out of that series. I secretly made a cross-index between Parade and the other two series. Whenever I had to teach out of Parade, I ran copies of the pages which covered the same material in the other two series.
Some of the middle school and adult classes used Side by Side. This is a cartoon-illustrated series containing drills.
My classes lasted for 55 minutes. For the first half of the class, I followed the textbook. For the second half, I used songs, games, and picture books of my own choice. |
I doubt then you were at an ECC if what you say is true.
I've worked at two different ECCs...total time 3yrs and they were both the same.
Parade/Discovery/Explorer/Peek-A-Boo and a couple other books are standard. Classes are 40mins.
They never used Let's Go, as those books compete with Discovery/Explorer which are homegrown books.
My wife also worked at an ECC for 2yrs...she used the exact same books I had used.
They have a set curiculam...don't worry. |
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PEIGUY

Joined: 28 Mar 2004 Location: Omokgyo
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Mr. Pink wrote: |
tomato wrote: |
I was at a YBM school 3 years ago.
The preschool class used a series which was based on Sesame Street.
I never could understand why, but in elementary school, different classes used different textbook series.
Some classes used Let's Go, which is a fairly good series.
Some classes used American English Today, which, for some reason, was published by the same publisher and was very similar to Let's Go. I understand that this series is no longer being published.
Some elementary classes used Parade. I never saw any way possible to teach out of that series. I secretly made a cross-index between Parade and the other two series. Whenever I had to teach out of Parade, I ran copies of the pages which covered the same material in the other two series.
Some of the middle school and adult classes used Side by Side. This is a cartoon-illustrated series containing drills.
My classes lasted for 55 minutes. For the first half of the class, I followed the textbook. For the second half, I used songs, games, and picture books of my own choice. |
I doubt then you were at an ECC if what you say is true.
I've worked at two different ECCs...total time 3yrs and they were both the same.
Parade/Discovery/Explorer/Peek-A-Boo and a couple other books are standard. Classes are 40mins.
They never used Let's Go, as those books compete with Discovery/Explorer which are homegrown books.
My wife also worked at an ECC for 2yrs...she used the exact same books I had used.
They have a set curiculam...don't worry. |
So, Mr. Pink ECC is a good school to go with? from what i have gathered is basically its a good place to start for a newbie? i know the pay isn't the greatest but i'd rather have that as a trade off for a good experience (not the franchises as some are hit/miss i understand). I dont' like using recruiters and ECC was recommended to me through a mutual acquaitance who has friends working at the school now and he himself spent a year working there. |
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Mr. Pink

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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The head office schools are good in a lot of ways:
You always get materials, good housing and paid on time.
Bad in these ways:
Supervisors/Managers can change as they move around the corp. world of YBM. Some are great, some SUCK. I used to HATE my last supervisor. THe manager was cool though. |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hello, Mr. Pink!
No, I was at an E2 school, which was also under YBM (�û� �����).
The school was in Kimcheon.
But when I was job-hunting, I visited an ECC school in Taegu, and it seemed to have many of the same materials.
I wondered why �û� ����� had two chains with two names.
I haven't seen any new E2 schools going up since I've been here.
They probably decided to phase it out. |
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Mr. Pink

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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tomato wrote: |
Hello, Mr. Pink!
No, I was at an E2 school, which was also under YBM (�û� �����).
The school was in Kimcheon.
But when I was job-hunting, I visited an ECC school in Taegu, and it seemed to have many of the same materials.
I wondered why �û� ����� had two chains with two names.
I haven't seen any new E2 schools going up since I've been here.
They probably decided to phase it out. |
Actually ECC is now under YBM Education.
Which a few of their other chains retain the sisa young o sa name.
The ECC franchise uses all the same books, as Sisa Young O Sa's media arm: Young and Son Media (i believe is the name) produced a set of crap books that they push on the students. IMO it's better than nothing, but still they could be improved. |
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PEIGUY

Joined: 28 Mar 2004 Location: Omokgyo
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:35 am Post subject: |
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Mr. Pink wrote: |
The head office schools are good in a lot of ways:
You always get materials, good housing and paid on time.
Bad in these ways:
Supervisors/Managers can change as they move around the corp. world of YBM. Some are great, some SUCK. I used to HATE my last supervisor. THe manager was cool though. |
thanks, i don't think any job can be totally perfect, even in the real world people hate there supervisors or managers, its a way of life. Thanks for the info. |
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