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All American GETs must resubmit an FBI CRC
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DingleBerryLarry



Joined: 06 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:54 pm    Post subject: All American GETs must resubmit an FBI CRC Reply with quote

I have been working for EPIK for 6 months. I just got an email from the head of my province stating that the visa laws have changed. Now all criminal checks must be from the national level, or an FBI crc. Here is a quote from their website:

"The Ministry of Justice (Immigration) now requires all teachers to submit a national-level criminal check.

For most of the Chungbuk teachers, this will only concern American background checks, as most American GETs submitted a state-level check, and not an FBI criminal record check.

If you have already submitted a national criminal background report, you do NOT have to resubmit another report.

You are required to submit your apostilled (or notarized) national criminal check to your local immigration office before 2011 for ALL teachers who have not submitted a national check.

If you are in Korea, you may get your criminal record check notarized at your country's embassy.

Also, please note EPIK teachers are NOT required to resubmit an apostilled copy of their degree.

The following will guide you on how get a criminal record check in Korea."

I understand where they are coming from, but I don't understand why they are putting the GETs that are already here and teaching through this. This is a huge hassle.
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the plus side, it will free up the job market. Laughing
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DingleBerryLarry



Joined: 06 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This means that every GET that did not orginally submit a national CRC will have to make a trip to Seoul to their country's embassy. Also, on the US embassy site it says that it could take 16- 18 weeks, not including the transit time from Virginia. That means that even if I started the process now, there is a chance that I won't have the FBI CRC by the Jan. 2011 deadline.

My contract is up at the end of Feb. 2011. I wonder what would happen if I didn't get the FBI CRC. Best case scenario, nothing would happen. Worst case scenario, I could get deported and screwed out of my return airfare and my severance. I'm just wondering if they would even notice.
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NYC_Gal



Joined: 08 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The FBI check is only for renewal. You aren't going to get screwed out of airfare and severance. If you want it to renew, you need to get started on it now, though.
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DingleBerryLarry



Joined: 06 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's not what I gathered from the email.

"You are required to submit your apostilled (or notarized) national criminal check to your local immigration office before 2011 for ALL teachers who have not submitted a national check."

It doesn't say anything about renewal, it plainly states that any current teacher must submit the national CRC before Jan. 2011.
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Morticae



Joined: 06 May 2010

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm about to go in with EPIK and they certainly have not told me (or anybody else in the new group) that we need to get a national background check. Furthermore, it simply wouldn't make sense as immigration only wants it for new visa issues starting January 2011. So if you go to renew in 2011, or obtain a new visa in 2011, it is a requirement, but otherwise... not. That's straight from immigrations website. You should clarify the matter and make sure they understand.
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NYC_Gal



Joined: 08 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I called immigration a couple of weeks ago when I heard about it. It's only for renewal. Fear not.
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aweitzm1



Joined: 23 Mar 2010
Location: Florida

PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the new law state how recent the CBC has to be? For the state level it had to be six months recent. Is that the same case with the FBI since it can take up to 12 weeks to get?

If you want to look for a new job while in Korea does that mean you have to start apply for the CBC six months into your contract to get it in enough time to renew or look for a new job before your contract ends?

My thinking is if there is no time limit on the CBC you might apply for it now and just hold on to it until you need it.
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nstick13



Joined: 02 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I, too, am an EPIK teacher in Chungbuk, and replied to the e-mail with questions and called EPIK to ask about it.

It seems like this is only a Chungbuk-wide requirement, and we all have to do it, even if we're not renewing.

I'm certainly in the boat where I just want to say "no" and see what happens. EPIK knew nothing of this when I talked to them. I could see them talking the national immigration office for us, maybe? There has to be someone to advocate on our behalf. This is absurd and expensive in both real money and opportunity cost.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's a GET?
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guest English Teacher replaced the old term Native English Teacher. Apparently the old term gave us too much power and status in relation to our own language and the teaching thereof.
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NYC_Gal wrote:
I called immigration a couple of weeks ago when I heard about it. It's only for renewal. Fear not.


Sometimes EPIK, GEPIK, and SMOE demand more documentation from foreign teachers than that required by immigration. A few years ago they were demanding weekly diploma checks. It happens. Some of the foreign teachers who were there at the time could tell you all about it.
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perkxplosion



Joined: 18 Jan 2010
Location: gogo's. you know know.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this only for GEPIK or is it a new law for anyone public or private?
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NYC_Gal



Joined: 08 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you plan on renewing or working in Korea next year, get it. If not, just say you're working on it and finish your contract.
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iwillteachyouenglish



Joined: 07 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems silly but what can ya do? I think as far as immigration is concerned if you arrive on Dec 31st or sooner, you still only need the state until you renew. Sounds like they have added an additional requirement. Actually, I think next year will be less confusing when everyone just needs the national check. I hardly think it is going to reduce the flow of jobless graduates lol The economic situation coupled with the fact that Korea is still a cheap place to get started working in insure a never ending supply.
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