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jrwhite82
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 Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:28 am Post subject: "Female Teachers Wanted" |
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| I have a question for all the ladies out there. When you see this in a job posting, does it make you hesitate about applying at a sexist school or does it not bother you? |
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kardisa
Joined: 26 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:46 am Post subject: |
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I think you're confusing 'sexism' with 'market demand.'
But to answer your question - if the school paid me on time and didn't work me like a slave, then I wouldn't feel the least bit odd about accepting a 'female only' position.
I mean, if you had a master's degree, would you hesitate to apply to elitist schools that required one? |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:36 am Post subject: |
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| Well, I would apply to them because they are basing their requirements on a specific skill or area of content which I have additional training and background in. That is a lot different than eliminating half the potential applicants due to their gender. |
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interestedinhanguk
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:38 am Post subject: |
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| kardisa wrote: |
I think you're confusing 'sexism' with 'market demand.'
But to answer your question - if the school paid me on time and didn't work me like a slave, then I wouldn't feel the least bit odd about accepting a 'female only' position.
I mean, if you had a master's degree, would you hesitate to apply to elitist schools that required one? |
So, if you're white, it's ok to go for the whites only jobs? I've been offered those and turned them down. |
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Steve_Rogers2008
Joined: 22 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:38 am Post subject: |
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| kardisa wrote: |
if the school paid me on time and didn't work me like a slave, then I wouldn't feel the least bit odd about accepting a 'female only' position.
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Paying late AND working you like a slave.... isn't that the whole reason they WANT a female teaching there? they can treat her like they do the Korean staff... mostly ladies, usually...  |
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kardisa
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| Again, it's all based on market demand. Regardless of how flawed the reasoning might be, white, young American females are who parents want to see as teachers. Thus, school directors are going to make an effort to hire them first. To answer your question, I'm not going to feel bad about something that makes me more marketable than the next person. |
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kardisa
Joined: 26 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:42 am Post subject: |
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| Steve_Rogers2008 wrote: |
| kardisa wrote: |
if the school paid me on time and didn't work me like a slave, then I wouldn't feel the least bit odd about accepting a 'female only' position.
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Paying late AND working you like a slave.... isn't that the whole reason they WANT a female teaching there? they can treat her like they do the Korean staff... mostly ladies, usually... |
Hahaha, touch�. Yet likely true in some aspects.  |
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interestedinhanguk
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| the female-only jobs to seem to be the lowest-paying and more strenuous. |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:10 am Post subject: |
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| kardisa wrote: |
| Again, it's all based on market demand. Regardless of how flawed the reasoning might be, white, young American females are who parents want to see as teachers. Thus, school directors are going to make an effort to hire them first. To answer your question, I'm not going to feel bad about something that makes me more marketable than the next person. |
I'm not asking if you feel bad. I wouldn't feel bad either, because it is not something you can control obviously (unless you are willing to go through some life changing surgery).
I am just asking if it makes any warnings bells go off.
To me, it says a lot about an employer if they place your gender and looks over your skills and experience. |
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kardisa
Joined: 26 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| jrwhite82 wrote: |
| To me, it says a lot about an employer if they place your gender and looks over your skills and experience. |
Of course it does. Still, welcome to the majority of ESL jobs in Asia.
edit: I suppose I should specify "entry level ESL jobs." Obviously, there are schools out that that actually care about qualifications, but in my experience, those tend to be universities, international schools, etc. |
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interestedinhanguk
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:15 am Post subject: |
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| kardisa wrote: |
| jrwhite82 wrote: |
| To me, it says a lot about an employer if they place your gender and looks over your skills and experience. |
Of course it does. Still, welcome to the majority of ESL jobs in Asia.
edit: I suppose I should specify "entry level ESL jobs." Obviously, there are schools out that that actually care about qualifications, but in my experience, those tend to be universities, international schools, etc. |
or anyone that pays over 2.1 |
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