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tmax500
Joined: 12 Feb 2010
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 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:34 pm Post subject: degree with 2year-old apostille |
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| I've read that from Sept 1st an original degree will no longer be accepted (seems they want to discourage applicants), but I wondering if a 2 year old apostille is acceptable on an original degree this month? (I tried to get a new apostille but have been told I can only do it once on a degree) Applying from abroad and dont want the hassle of notaries if I can get a job this month |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: degree with 2year-old apostille |
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| tmax500 wrote: |
| I've read that from Sept 1st an original degree will no longer be accepted (seems they want to discourage applicants), but I wondering if a 2 year old apostille is acceptable on an original degree this month? (I tried to get a new apostille but have been told I can only do it once on a degree) Applying from abroad and dont want the hassle of notaries if I can get a job this month |
I used a 2 year old Korean consulate certified copy (Canadian) for my last application so it may be acceptable to use a copy with an older apostille.
Under the Hague convention dealing with it - it is is certainly acceptable (and Korea is a signatory).
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dizzyl
Joined: 24 Jul 2010
Location: UK
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| Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:00 am Post subject: |
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I have done so much research on apostille's and yet cannot find where the document is apostilled... I need to get my police disclosure and degree done does the solicitor need to certify it on the document or on a copy or on the back? and then the apostille is done in the same place? I am loath to have my degree scribbled on as it's from a South African university and they only way they will issue a new one is by me going in for an interview... fine except I live in the UK now!!
So can someone tell me where the solicitor need to sign and where will the document be apostilled?? |
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runthegauntlet
Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: the southlands.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:48 pm Post subject: Re: degree with 2year-old apostille |
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| tmax500 wrote: |
| I've read that from Sept 1st an original degree will no longer be accepted (seems they want to discourage applicants), but I wondering if a 2 year old apostille is acceptable on an original degree this month? (I tried to get a new apostille but have been told I can only do it once on a degree) Applying from abroad and dont want the hassle of notaries if I can get a job this month |
I have a year old apostille on my original degree as well. Hoping to snag a job and get it processed before Sept. 1st....
Eh... not the same job market as when I first got here. |
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tmax500
Joined: 12 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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Dont think I can get a job and visa processed by the end of August so got my degree photocopied (twice) and notarised today. Will get apostilles as soon as I get a job offer.
Dizzyl, your degree will only be photocopied by a notary solicitor (not all solicitors do this), the copies are stamped & sealed with an extra page indicating that the original degree is genuine. Make sure to get both copies notarised and apostilled.
Definitely not the same market as before. Some employer emailed me last week for the best time to ring. I said anyday 4-8pm, he called me the next day at 9pm and was annoyed I could not do an interview while driving, and hasnt got back to me since! |
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dizzyl
Joined: 24 Jul 2010
Location: UK
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| Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Tmax... I work for the magistrates' court in the UK making the legal advisers able to certify just about anything... but have hit a wall regarding the apostille... they have no idea!! So I have to do the research and then they will see if they can help. I don't mind it will get done for free at least!
So I have certified copies of the relevant documents with a Court stamp and legal advisers signature will that be accepted? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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| dizzyl wrote: |
| So I have certified copies of the relevant documents with a Court stamp and legal advisers signature will that be accepted? |
Not by Korean immigration.
The apositlle is required and the UK is a signatory to the treaty so there is no alternative if you are applying from within the UK.
The Hague Convention Abolishing the Requirement for Legalization for Foreign Public Documents is one of the Hague Conference on Private International Law. It specifies the modalities through which a document issued in one of the signatory countries can be certified for legal purposes in all the other signatory states. Such a certification is called an apostille (a French word meaning certification). It is an international certification comparable to a notarization in domestic law.
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dizzyl
Joined: 24 Jul 2010
Location: UK
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| Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:51 am Post subject: |
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Doh... see I should make sure I say what I mean, not just what I mean in my head!!
I mean I have certified copies by a legal adviser... would that be acceptable by the Legalisation office (FCO)??
Sorry for being such a dimwit!!   |
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Hotpants
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:22 am Post subject: |
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| I had a 3 yr old notarized/apostilled diploma doc which I recently used for a visa. Saved me a lot of hassle. They said that the age of the apostille is no problem. But things can always change... |
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Oliver
Joined: 19 Apr 2008
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 7:51 am Post subject: |
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| dizzyl wrote: |
Doh... see I should make sure I say what I mean, not just what I mean in my head!!
I mean I have certified copies by a legal adviser... would that be acceptable by the Legalisation office (FCO)??
Sorry for being such a dimwit!! |
'All educational documents (photocopies or originals) MUST be signed in the UK by a notary public or solicitor before you submit to us for legalisation..... If you are living overseas it may be possible for the British Council in your country to sign or stamp your document that we can then legalise (without the need for the signature of a notary or solicitor). This is a discretionary service so you should check with the local British Council office to see if they offer this service.'
Source - FCO website - http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/about-us/what-we-do/services-we-deliver/legal-services/legalisation/faq/What-documents1/educational-documents
With regards to British Council Verifiication, it is worth noting that the FCO are saying that British Council Verification IS NOT the same is an apostille. They appear to regard it as a seperate issue, one that precedes Legalization. That is, a British Council stamp does not legalize a document, no matter how strict or stringent their verification process is.
I suspect the reason why is that the British Council is sponsored by the FCO and cannot act alone with regards Legalization. |
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jamiemexi
Joined: 13 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:48 pm Post subject: Re: degree with 2year-old apostille |
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Normally apostille stay valid for 6 months, depending on what you're doing and who is accepting them. For instance, for adoption apostille, sometimes they are valid for 6 months, for consulate work 6 months as well. For teachers teaching abroad, it depends on who is accepting them. The best thing to do is ask the requesting agency.
If you're in South Korea, you can send your documents to Apostille Pros. www.apostillepros.com
They provide background checks services -FBI, state background check, notary and apostille.
As far as copy of degree apostille, 90% is done this way so you get to keep your original degree and not have to order a new one.
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| I've read that from Sept 1st an original degree will no longer be accepted (seems they want to discourage applicants), but I wondering if a 2 year old apostille is acceptable on an original degree this month? (I tried to get a new apostille but have been told I can only do it once on a degree) Applying from abroad and dont want the hassle of notaries if I can get a job this month |
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