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[drydell]

Noticed there's quite a few fans of low carb diets on these forums. I've lately become much more interested in diet and disease and i'm personally now a fan of a high carb diet. But by that I mean complex unrefined whole food carbs - NOT the white sugar, flour refined simple carbs - with that I completely agree with you low-carbers - they are nutritionally useless and part of the problem of modern obesity etc...I'm trying to eliminate these as much as possible right now..

It's just a bit annoying that the low carbers lump all carbohydrates together as though they were in some way comparable...there is a world of difference between complex unprocessed unrefined carbs (most veg/fruit beans brown rice and so on) compared to the highly refined blood sugar spiking stuff in all the processed foods.. and the Standard American (read Western) diet is full of the latter and deficient in the former...

Well anyway there's a new study just out - cohort peer-reviewed - not some dodgy quakery with a 'revolutionary new diet theory'....and in short - if you wanna live to a ripe old age... you better cut right down on the meat ...

[DorkothyParker]

But what is life without lamb shanks, rare steaks, and duck breasts, I ask you.

EDIT: OMG! And bacon. They can have my fatty bacon when they pry it from my cold dead fingers (literally, heart disease).

But yeah, I am all about eating hella veggies (especially green ones and peppers of every color) and not eating white breads and sugar. But dang, meat is my life.

[NYC_Gal]

One can go lower carb and avoid meat. I have half a cup of muesli or brown rice/barley mix every day, loads of produce, some cheese or yogurt, and either nuts or seeds (or a delicious big spoon of peanut butter). Don't forget beans and the occasional bit of fish for those healthy oils.

Rye toast is also a nice treat, but not every day.

[Sector7G]

[recklesscognition1]

I have been lowering my meat intake for the past couple of months for health and financial reasons. Prices of meat are really high here and I don't want the prices or the chemicals in the meat. I have a hard time finding good complex carbs here though, anyone know of online store that ships good stuff (korean)?

[drydell]

the thing that's new is that it compared a low-carb animal based diet with a low-carb vegetable based diet over a substantial period of time - a bit surprising considering how the low-carb diet is mostly new
(diet as in standard food consumption).

To most people moderation would still mean meat and 2 veg for every meal... and they will still end up getting premature cancers and heart disease with that diet. The evidence stacking up is overwhelming.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7750016.stm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19808637?[url]itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=2[/url]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8629358.stm
http://www.foodnavigator.com/Science-Nutrition/Saturated-fat-risk-more-evidence

regarding taste - I'm not going to argue that meat and dairy products haven't been made to taste really really nice - but that's because basically you're being hit with a fat, salt, sugar taste bomb... it's so hard to resist..we all love it but it's gonna kill us early is the facts of the matter...

It's no different from being addicted to 2 teaspoons of sugar in your coffee (my hand's up here)- it tastes great but the irony is it tastes better when you get used to no sugar ..the hard part is just readjusting tastebuds which takes about 1 month or so to get used to the difference.....

[balzor]

No meats, I would rather die

[drydell]

[Sector7G]

[DorkothyParker]

[drydell]

[DorkothyParker]

I'm just saying if I had to choose between meat and sex, I would pick meat.

I checked with my husband and he tells me that <a certain non-vaginal penetration sex act> is better than tofurkey.

[drydell]

[DorkothyParker]

Hey, no one said it was a choice. Just Balzor said he preferred death to vegetarianism, you said you preferred death to abstinence and I said I prefer just about anything to poultfree and tof-dogs.

[balzor]

Difference is I can eat meat on a regular basis anytime I want. Sex is not as available atm