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decolyon
Joined: 24 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:13 pm Post subject: Where/How to meet women? |
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Hi all,
I've been here for some time. At first, flying solo seemed fine to me. But the more I see some of these gorgeous Korean girls and the more I come home to a lonely empty apartment each day, it saddens me to an extreme degree.
I want to meet someone. I'm not looking for marriage nor a one night fling. I guess the easiest way to put it is that, I just want a girlfriend.
Now, I'm not much of a drinker. I just never took to it like others did. So I'm not one for bars or clubs. Of course I go out with friends from time to time, but I never have the courage or wit needed to just walk up to some girl and chat her up. This whole ritual has always felt foreign or awkward to me.
Some people I know suggested online dating. Using one of the dating sites to meet Korean girls interested in foreign guys. I gave it a shot, but am having very little luck. I consider myself to be somewhat attractive. I'm not model by any stretch. But I dress well, eat right, and exercise. None the less, I just can't seem to make any significant contact with these online girls. I'm starting to think this too isn't for me.
Alas, I'm beginning to give up hope. There are some nice girls at my school, but it's just a bad idea to date people you work with. If things go sour, how awkward is that going to be? While it's okay to be friendly with your coworkers, I think it's best to keep professional relationships professional.
So, what's left? I know back in the States, if there was a girl at a book store, or coffee shop, or at the gym I found attractive; I'd find a way to make casual conversation with her and see what happened. But here, you don't know if that girl speaks English at all or is even interested in dating a foreigner. Plus, there is the social stigma of a Korean girl being seen with a foreigner that she may not wish to visit upon herself. So, approaching random women in casual locations seems to be out as well.
This is seriously depressing me. I'm tired of being alone every weekend. I'm tired of not sharing my experiences with anyone. I'm tired of daydreaming and fantasizing about being with someone. When will this loneliness end?
Please help. |
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Died By Bear

Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Depends. Are you going to be in Korea short time, or long time? My advice depends on which one of the two applies to you. |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:50 pm Post subject: Re: Where/How to meet women? |
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decolyon wrote: |
Hi all,
I've been here for some time. At first, flying solo seemed fine to me. But the more I see some of these gorgeous Korean girls and the more I come home to a lonely empty apartment each day, it saddens me to an extreme degree.
I want to meet someone. I'm not looking for marriage nor a one night fling. I guess the easiest way to put it is that, I just want a girlfriend.
Now, I'm not much of a drinker. I just never took to it like others did. So I'm not one for bars or clubs. Of course I go out with friends from time to time, but I never have the courage or wit needed to just walk up to some girl and chat her up. This whole ritual has always felt foreign or awkward to me.
Some people I know suggested online dating. Using one of the dating sites to meet Korean girls interested in foreign guys. I gave it a shot, but am having very little luck. I consider myself to be somewhat attractive. I'm not model by any stretch. But I dress well, eat right, and exercise. None the less, I just can't seem to make any significant contact with these online girls. I'm starting to think this too isn't for me.
Alas, I'm beginning to give up hope. There are some nice girls at my school, but it's just a bad idea to date people you work with. If things go sour, how awkward is that going to be? While it's okay to be friendly with your coworkers, I think it's best to keep professional relationships professional.
So, what's left? I know back in the States, if there was a girl at a book store, or coffee shop, or at the gym I found attractive; I'd find a way to make casual conversation with her and see what happened. But here, you don't know if that girl speaks English at all or is even interested in dating a foreigner. Plus, there is the social stigma of a Korean girl being seen with a foreigner that she may not wish to visit upon herself. So, approaching random women in casual locations seems to be out as well.
This is seriously depressing me. I'm tired of being alone every weekend. I'm tired of not sharing my experiences with anyone. I'm tired of daydreaming and fantasizing about being with someone. When will this loneliness end?
Please help. |
Ha! Ha! Ha!
Seriously though, try one of those dating sites.
Go to an international English-speaking church service. You'll be sure to find some high quality, marriage-minded women there.
Search Facebook for any clubs in your area which share your interests.
Find a Korean male friend. Ask them to be a wingman.
Just a tip, try not to act too creepy on the first meeting. Most Korean girls want naturally stimulating conversation at first. They want to relate to you on some level. If you tell corny jokes or act a fool, they probably won't be into you, however, there are exceptions. |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Single Korean women tend to congregate in coffee shops. Use that nugget of truth for good, son.  |
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decolyon
Joined: 24 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Frenetic wrote: |
Depends. Are you going to be in Korea short time, or long time? My advice depends on which one of the two applies to you. |
Another year and a half probably. |
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DorkothyParker

Joined: 11 Apr 2009 Location: Jeju
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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How familiar are you with your Korean coworkers. Maybe one of them can set you up on a blind date?
How do people usually meet new people to date? It can't be THAT much different here for you. You might also join a gym/class or activity group to meet like-minded folks? You shouldn't rule out dating other foreigners if you perchance upon one you like.
The world is your oyster, my friend. |
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samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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First of all, ignore 90% of the responses to this thread, especially ones that generalize about Korean women or how to succeed with them.
If you don't like bars/clubs, online dating, or approaching random women in public, then the best way is through 소개팅. Even if you do like all of those things, 소개팅 is the best way to meet people here, in my experience anyway. |
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Slowmotion
Joined: 15 Aug 2009
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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If you wanna better your chances, learn Korean.
And watch out for online dating, a lot of psychos on there. They are online searching for a reason! |
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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So many factors to explain why. I would say that generally speaking its not the most difficult thing. Generally. However, there are a few factors to consider.
Are you in a big city or small town? Do you speak any of the language.
I say most of it dependds on you. I know lots of guys who have dated a variety of women and many that have had no luck.
Looks is one thing but even some not so looking guys I've known have been very successful dating korean women.
There is a general belief that if you date regularly back home, generally speaking, you can get a korean women.
I think there is some truth to it. Yes, there are cultural differences but at the heart of it, men are men, women are women.
If you're charming, a good conversationalist, outgoing, friendly, good sense of humor, you'll get a woman no matter where you are living.
Those attributes are attractive to women the world over.
If you're in a fairly big city there should be places where foreigners and korean congregate. If you have the aforementioned attributes you'll compete well against the other guys there to meet women.
If you are not good at talking to or approaching women, then I wouldn't necessarily expect korean women to be easier to meet than the ones you couldn't get back home.
One way to get around any lack of 'game' is have korean friends or even foreign friends set you up with someone. At least this eliminates the fear of approaching women. Its still up to you to woo her but at least meeting the meeting part is sorted.
My final advice is get out. Go to the coffee shops that korean women go to, take a class that korean women are in. In clubs you'll find club girls not girlfriends necessarily but it does happen. |
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misher
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Personality aside, it also depends on what your standards are in terms of looks.
I know a few guys here that are going through dry spells, because well...they are just too god damn picky and think they are entitled to some model girl.
Chances increase exponentially if you are approaching women that are average that Korean guys do not want. Sounds harsh but it is true. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: Where/How to meet women? |
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decolyon wrote: |
So, what's left? I know back in the States, if there was a girl at a book store, or coffee shop, or at the gym I found attractive; I'd find a way to make casual conversation with her and see what happened. But here, you don't know if that girl speaks English at all or is even interested in dating a foreigner. Plus, there is the social stigma of a Korean girl being seen with a foreigner that she may not wish to visit upon herself. So, approaching random women in casual locations seems to be out as well.
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This shouldn't be a reason to not approach girls. Social stigmas are just social stigmas. If a girl won't see you because of a fear of being seen with a white dude (assuming you're white), then would you want to be with such a girl in the first place? As for their English, how would you know if they speak it or not if you don't talk to them? If you're in Seoul, most of them will speak at least a basic level of English but if they can't communicate with you at all, then it's time to find someone who can.
The basic tenants of hitting on chicks are universal throughout the world except some minor differences. In Korea, there is a bit more weight on how goodlooking you are but this can be still be overcome via confidence just like in the US. I've seen plenty of ugly dudes with hot chicks in both countries but there way too many Korean guys who destroy their own confidence by thinking they are ugly (I see it a lot amongst my "comrades").
Korean girls will also tend to be more interested in you if you show interest in Korea since most of them are mindless nationalists. Being foreign can also have its advantages since you are exotic and can speak teh Engrish. But just like in the US, everybody has minor different tastes and ideas on what's attractive so the best way to go about this is to simply go out there and try. Coffee shops and bookstores are good places. I would also suggest language exchange organizations.
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This is seriously depressing me. I'm tired of being alone every weekend. I'm tired of not sharing my experiences with anyone. I'm tired of daydreaming and fantasizing about being with someone. When will this loneliness end?
Please help. |
This sort of desperation and self-pity is what is not attractive bro. |
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Xaiko
Joined: 05 Oct 2009 Location: Jamsil
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Try using myspace, hanlingo.com, couchsurfing.com, korea4home.com for the purpose of meeting and making Korean friends. Ive had muchhh success |
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DorkothyParker

Joined: 11 Apr 2009 Location: Jeju
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: Where/How to meet women? |
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decolyon wrote: |
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This is seriously depressing me. I'm tired of being alone every weekend. I'm tired of not sharing my experiences with anyone. I'm tired of daydreaming and fantasizing about being with someone. When will this loneliness end?
Please help. |
This sort of desperation and self-pity is what is not attractive bro. |
Unless you happen to be holding an acoustic guitar... |
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interestedinhanguk

Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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I think you may have a problem in the fact that you don't want a one night stand or marriage. If you're fairly certain you'll be leaving in a year and a half then that may hurt your chances. Getting into a relationship here, one must consider that a lot of the ladies are looking for a potential husband, even if they're not that forward about it. College-aged women may be your best bet.
As for how to meet, I suggest Koreancupid.com, or maybe other dating websites. Get yourself the upgraded membership. Sending out the email messages can be unfruitful. However, take advantage of the instant messenger. Just look for who's online and start chatting (at least one person needs that upgraded membership for instant messaging). You can talk to tons of people this way; open up with something cheesy, even if it's just writing 안녕하세요 instead of 'hello'.
You could go on a date with someone new every week if you wanted.
I met a number of women. Most were normal, but wound up being not my type in the end. Some were fun. Only one was really weird, and one other being somewhat weird.
Finally, though, I met my lovely girlfriend and couldn't be happier. |
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:38 am Post subject: |
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I would also recommend changing things about your appearance that could stand changing or upgrading. The dingy t shirt and worn jeans you wore for your college years and you got chicks with is all well and good but invest in a nicer t shirt and better jeans. I'm not saying suit and tie, but at least look half way decent, shave, a little cologne and combed hair goes a long, long way. Ladies, am I right?
I wouldn't discount the one night stand scenario. I've seen some relationships come from one night stands. It can happen. Don't be too picky. The more korean girls you meet and date, the more you can better understand them.
Make your mistakes early so you can refine your 'game'. I can't emphasize enough to learn as much of the language as possible. Even a little goes a long way.
However, as I said, a lot of this depends on you. You can't expect to find a gf if you simply don't have 'game' or enough to get one. Harsh, but it is what it is. I've seen a lot of guys who are socially awkward. LBHs. Nice guys. But don't have a clue. I don't mean to be harsh but it is what it is. The ones that are LBHs never think they are. Hell, I could be one and am in denial...lol.
If you approached women back home as you said, I get the feeling you dated regularly. You should be able to get at least one. Use all the avenues aviailable: Interent; going to coffee shops, bars, etc.; taking classes where girls are; having korean friends set you up; have waygook teacher friends set you up with their co teachers or korean friends; learn the language; dress well and be groomed. |
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