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wildman082
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 Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:07 pm Post subject: Arrested for pot 10 years ago... |
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I've been searching on the forum and I'm pretty sure I answered my own question but I just wanted to confirm. I was arrested for pot and paraphernalia when I was 18 (10 years ago). I just received my background check and it does show the arrest but it says the charge was dismissed. In my state we have something called pre trial intervention where if you complete it your charges are dismissed. So I do not have a conviction.
Because this is a drug related offense it will prevent me from being able to get a visa correct? Is that a hard rule or is it a case by case basis? I'm just trying to figure out if I should bother applying for teaching jobs.
Thanks in advance for any help/info! |
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Radius
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorry, theres no way you'll teach here. |
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wildman082
Joined: 30 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the fast reply! I guess I'll have to decide if it is worth the time and money to have my record expunged. |
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southernman
Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Location: On the mainland again
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| Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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It actually sucks that your record isn't automatically expunged after 7 years, if you don't reoffend. I take it you're from the USA
Several of the western countries that have citizens teaching here have that policy
The Governments of those countries acknowledge that people make mistakes and bad choices when they're students and that penalizing people for youthful digressions for the rest of their lives is wrong.
Radius, I'm not meaning you when I say the following.
Heaps of people on this board say if you have any sort or record you shouldn't be allowed to teach, to me thats a tad self righteous
I think everyone experiments when they're young and some very unlucky people get caught and prosecuted for it.
Get it expunged... I've an American friend here who did that, he's been here for over 3 years and is a very capable teacher and well liked.
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| southernman wrote: |
Heaps of people on this board say if you have any sort or record you shoudn't be allowed to teach, to me thats a tad self righteous
I think everyone experiments when they're young and some very unlucky people get caught and prosecuted for it. |
Not to mention there are hugely different degrees of legality in regards to pot based on where you're coming from. I can smoke pot in my adopted home of Montreal in front of a cop and (at worst) get the equivalent of a parking ticket, and even the chances of that occurring are essentially nil. I can smoke pot in my home state of Massachusetts in front of a cop and get said parking ticket. Or I can smoke pot in Texas and get a permanent mark on my record. Given these inconsistencies, I don't see how people can get off saying that a pot conviction should preclude you from teaching. |
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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom
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| Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| wildman, there's always China |
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southernman
Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Location: On the mainland again
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| Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:48 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| southernman wrote: |
Heaps of people on this board say if you have any sort or record you shoudn't be allowed to teach, to me thats a tad self righteous
I think everyone experiments when they're young and some very unlucky people get caught and prosecuted for it. |
Not to mention there are hugely different degrees of legality in regards to pot based on where you're coming from. I can smoke pot in my adopted home of Montreal in front of a cop and (at worst) get the equivalent of a parking ticket, and even the chances of that occurring are essentially nil. I can smoke pot in my home state of Massachusetts in front of a cop and get said parking ticket. Or I can smoke pot in Texas and get a permanent mark on my record. Given these inconsistencies, I don't see how people can get off saying that a pot conviction should preclude you from teaching. |
Agreed, some people here believe they've led a life totally beyond reproach  
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:54 am Post subject: Re: Arrested for pot 10 years ago... |
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| wildman082 wrote: |
I've been searching on the forum and I'm pretty sure I answered my own question but I just wanted to confirm. I was arrested for pot and paraphernalia when I was 18 (10 years ago). I just received my background check and it does show the arrest but it says the charge was dismissed. In my state we have something called pre trial intervention where if you complete it your charges are dismissed. So I do not have a conviction.
Because this is a drug related offense it will prevent me from being able to get a visa correct? Is that a hard rule or is it a case by case basis? I'm just trying to figure out if I should bother applying for teaching jobs.
Thanks in advance for any help/info! |
As long as there is ANY REFERENCE to a drug related charge is on your background check your visa application will be refused without recourse.
If you can clear it up so that it doesn't show on your FBI check you will have a chance.
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Hotwire
Joined: 29 Aug 2010
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I did time 18 yrs ago for fighting. I'll not say how long but it was less than a year. I was a youngun and hadn't even been to college yet. Guy was almost ten yrs older than me and started it and should've known better as he was 26 hanging around with a bunch of 17 yr olds. Anyway.
I also had several fines for pot and petty theft etc.
Where I'm from it's all considered spent after I think it's 5 or 7 years so now my record is sparkely clean and I hope at least ten out of all the hundreds or probably a thousand korean kids I've spent time with teaching English over the years have benefited!
Not proud of the criminal (mostly petty) acts I commited but my point is people can and do change. |
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southernman
Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Location: On the mainland again
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| Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:21 am Post subject: |
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I did time 18 yrs ago for fighting. I'll not say how long but it was less than a year. I was a youngun and hadn't even been to college yet. Guy was almost ten yrs older than me and started it and should've known better as he was 26 hanging around with a bunch of 17 yr olds. Anyway.
I also had several fines for pot and petty theft etc.
Where I'm from it's all considered spent after I think it's 5 or 7 years so now my record is sparkely clean and I hope at least ten out of all the hundreds or probably a thousand korean kids I've spent time with teaching English over the years have benefited!
Not proud of the criminal (mostly petty) acts I commited but my point is people can and do change. |
I take it you mean you did time in the Juvenile system, not adult time. Because assault isn't expunged from your record, just like other offences that are considered serious, they are always on your record. Prison time is definitley on your record for life. The only offences expunged are the ones that are considered misdemeanors.
Thats the way it is in my country anyway or maybe you're just trolling to wind up people..... 
How anyone could compare a minor pot offence to an assault that warranted a prison sentence, seriously brings your credibilty into question. However, i've posted after having partaken in the past and made a tool of myself, so I'll just assume you've had a few |
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wildman082
Joined: 30 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:00 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for all the responses guys! Yes, I am from the US, and I'm looking in to getting my record expunged. |
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madoka
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| Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:21 am Post subject: |
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| Hotwire wrote: |
I did time 18 yrs ago for fighting. I'll not say how long but it was less than a year. I was a youngun and hadn't even been to college yet. Guy was almost ten yrs older than me and started it and should've known better as he was 26 hanging around with a bunch of 17 yr olds. Anyway.
I also had several fines for pot and petty theft etc. |
Once again the link between unemployable screw-ups being more likely to be racist haters gets stronger. |
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PRagic
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| Look on the bright side - you have a good shot at getting into Berkeley! |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| southernman wrote: |
Heaps of people on this board say if you have any sort or record you shoudn't be allowed to teach, to me thats a tad self righteous
I think everyone experiments when they're young and some very unlucky people get caught and prosecuted for it. |
Not to mention there are hugely different degrees of legality in regards to pot based on where you're coming from. I can smoke pot in my adopted home of Montreal in front of a cop and (at worst) get the equivalent of a parking ticket, and even the chances of that occurring are essentially nil. I can smoke pot in my home state of Massachusetts in front of a cop and get said parking ticket. Or I can smoke pot in Texas and get a permanent mark on my record. Given these inconsistencies, I don't see how people can get off saying that a pot conviction should preclude you from teaching. |
Because he wants to teach in Korea not Montreal or Massachusetts or Texas.
That's why. |
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Hotwire
Joined: 29 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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A. In my country (UK) records ARE spent after 7 years. Yes I was in a young offender's insititute.
B. I'm not a racist or a hater and certainly not an aplotroll.
C. I was attacked at the age ot 17 by a 26 year old man twice my size and my friend helped me out without my asking and we beat the preverbial out of him. That makes me not able to be a good and compassionate teacher when I started teaching 10 years later? Anyone who thinks that is a clownish waste of space and a bore.
Thanks. |
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