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No OT pay for Extra special Classes & 1 K-T is a lazy sl

 
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The Great Toad



Joined: 12 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:31 am    Post subject: No OT pay for Extra special Classes & 1 K-T is a lazy sl Reply with quote

I am at more than one Pub school teaching. One claims they will indeed pay me overtime for the extra classes I teach... The other claims that since my total hours a week of contracted hours is below the overtime then I must teach the extra classes sans extra pay and have no choice to refuse them ( I am indeed under my total hours a week in my contract)... the Korean at the school also stated the students in the extra class will NOT be paying any money for the class and it is free for them also since the the new extra classes ends exactly on the finishing hour when my last contracted office hour ends and since they also said I must be at the school 10 minutes before my first contracted hour starts I am now in fact required to be at the school 8 hours and ten minutes....not 8 hours as in my contract...

it will not help to put striaght an elder and I don't relish the idea of desk warming in the winter because the k-teacher did not like my attitude...

But there is really no way to get cash from this unyielding cow for the extra classes I guess right?

Anyone else doing extra classes for no extra cash in public schools?


mmm tooo negative I had to edit that....


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Vagabundo



Joined: 26 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

re so called after school classes.

the simplest answer is the following: (may differ depending on whether you're smoe, gepik or epik, but probably same or similar)

I think this is how it works for gepik for e.g.


a) if you're under your contract quota of 22 or so teaching hours per week, they can make you do extra classes to bring you up to 22 without any pay and you cannot refuse. However, these classes must be within your regular 8 hour workday.

b) if these xtra classes are beyond/after your 8 hour workday, ergo truly "after school", you must be paid for them (probably at least 20K an hour) and they count as overtime, regardless of whether your regular school hour workload is 22, or under.

in case of b, you have to do 6 hours a week if asked (you do get paid though) and you hold right of refusal for anything over 6 hours a week)

p.s. re-reading your post, it says this extra class ends just as your 8 hours end. Ergo, they don't have to pay you if your overall workload is under 22, or whatever weekly hours your contract states.

it's also possible that the classes are indeed free for those students if it's a very poor area, in such cases they're subsidized by the govt.


sounds like your KT is old(er). Younger Korean English teachers, if you get on friendly enough terms with one or more, will tell you in confidence that many the older teachers simply "do not want to teach" and their English is in fact very poor. This doesn't apply to all older teachers of course, but at least to some and it will take time for the system to flush these people out, have them retire, etc.
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The Great Toad



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahhh thanks yes well I think you are right hours are hours and you can not get around it... I guess I might be a bit tired to as an older teacher someday as well ... I should not be so negative though... of course I will do my best for the students taught regardless!
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