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How to get a credit card if you work for a Hagwon?
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lantie84



Joined: 24 Feb 2010
Location: London, UK

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:30 am    Post subject: How to get a credit card if you work for a Hagwon? Reply with quote

Hi, i have been living and working in Korea for 3 months and have so far come up short with getting a credit card. I have used the advice from previous threads on this forum BUT the criteria have supposedly changed recently. I tried to get a Samsung card (even filled out the application form) and enquired about other CC's - i've been told that because I work for a hagwon i can't get one. Only public school or uni applicants need apply.

I can't help but think this is nonsense and there must be a knowledegable soul out there who can help me. The only option i've been given is where you give a bank a deposit and they match that as your credit limit. In my eyes that's not a credit card.

So any suggestions South Korean guru's???
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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh. Soul.

Why not just do everything the way I do. Get my mum to pay for things like holidays and then risk not being able to enter the country due to lack of proof of payment.

Basically I'm wasting your time but I want to know this too, for my winter holiday.
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dharmasister



Joined: 23 Aug 2010
Location: New Orleans, Louisiana

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I use my CapitalOne (master card) or American Express card in Korea?
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try asking for a prepaid card- where you lock X amount into a bank account, and have a credit limit of that same amount.
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try asking for a prepaid card- where you lock X amount into a bank account, and have a credit limit of that same amount.
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eIn07912



Joined: 06 Dec 2008
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most places aren't going to give a foreigner a credit card, regardless of where you work. The closest you can get is a debt card linked to your checking account or a kind of pre-paid credit card where you put money on it to use it. You can get an international debt card that will work overseas and it's linked to your Korean bank account. I've used mine extensively.

If you have a Visa card from the U.S. it will work here no problem. A Visa debt card linked to an American bank account will work as well. For both though, you have to notify your bank or card sponsor and let them know you are in Korea and will be using it here or in any other country you're in. If you don't, they'll put a block on it if they think you're in the U.S. and they see charges from the Converse store in Seoul.

Last, as a word of advice: don't get a credit card. They will ruin your life. Credit card debt is the second leading reason people file for bankruptcy (first being unexpected medical expenses.) Live within your means. Credit distorts this ability and fools you into believing your in a better position than you actually are. In short, don't borrow money. It's as simple as that. If you want something, save up and buy it outright. By the time you pay it off with a credit card, you'll have probably paid for it two or three times over. I have friends that have more in credit card debt than I had in students loans. One friend was 22 and she had over $15,000 in CC debt. I didn't even pay that much for my first car.

Don't borrow money.
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DeMayonnaise



Joined: 02 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know anyone in Korea with a credit card. All my friends just have debit cards tied to their Korean accounts. For vacation I just use my Visa card from back home, and send money home every 6 months or so...
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john110375



Joined: 30 Jul 2007
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try to get a lotte card : ) I got one fairly easily and with no deposit.. They gave me alot too $8500.00 and you can use it anywhere even other countries. Good Luck
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Gaber



Joined: 23 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you just want VISA function, rather than a loan from a Korean bank, then a Visa debit card can do the job. My Shinhan A1 card worked for me in Nepal. It doesn't play nice with a lot of online sites, but you can synch it to Paypal, which you can use for almost everything.
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mm



Joined: 01 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a KEB credit card through my work. It is both a bank account and a visa credit card. It works overseas and it also has a direct international transfer option, so all I need to do is go to an ATM or log on to my online account to transfer money instantly back home. But as I was filling out the form to get it, I think the lady said that only foreigners at certain institutes were eligible to apply.
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lantie84



Joined: 24 Feb 2010
Location: London, UK

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eIn07912 wrote:


Last, as a word of advice: don't get a credit card. They will ruin your life. Credit card debt is the second leading reason people file for bankruptcy (first being unexpected medical expenses.) Live within your means. Credit distorts this ability and fools you into believing your in a better position than you actually are. In short, don't borrow money. It's as simple as that. If you want something, save up and buy it outright. By the time you pay it off with a credit card, you'll have probably paid for it two or three times over. I have friends that have more in credit card debt than I had in students loans. One friend was 22 and she had over $15,000 in CC debt. I didn't even pay that much for my first car.

Don't borrow money.



Hi eIn07912, I'm sorry to hear about your friends who have abused the priviledge of having a CC. I can understand your way of thinking but I completely disagree with you!! CC only ruin peoples lives who don't know how to use them properly! I have a CC from back in the UK that I used everyday for everything and I have never paid interest once - why? Because I clear my payments in full at the end of every month! This is how you use a CC - doing this builds your credit which is so useful for many things e.g., mortgages, business loans, investment capital etc.

I'm sorry to say that you and your friends (like most) are sadly mis-informed! CC's are an excellent asset to have if used in the correct way. Too many people don't know the basics of how to use one to their advantage because this is never taught in schools, so one has to teach themselves, just like I did!

BORROW MONEY IN AN INTELLIGENT WAY AND REMEMBER THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOOD DEBT AND BAD DEBT!
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: How to get a credit card if you work for a Hagwon? Reply with quote

lantie84 wrote:
Hi, i have been living and working in Korea for 3 months and have so far come up short with getting a credit card. I have used the advice from previous threads on this forum BUT the criteria have supposedly changed recently. I tried to get a Samsung card (even filled out the application form) and enquired about other CC's - i've been told that because I work for a hagwon i can't get one. Only public school or uni applicants need apply.

I can't help but think this is nonsense and there must be a knowledegable soul out there who can help me. The only option i've been given is where you give a bank a deposit and they match that as your credit limit. In my eyes that's not a credit card.

So any suggestions South Korean guru's???


If you work at a hagwan the ONLY option is a secured credit card.

This means you put some money (usually 110% of your credit limit) into a time (locked) deposit (interest bearing fortunately).

This is used as security (collateral) against your credit card.

After that you will be issued a credit card (VISA or M/C) that can be used like any other credit card.

One caveat however is that C/Cs in Korea are much like the AMEX card of old where you had to pay off the balance in full EVERY month with no carry over from month to month.

The good news is that there are also no interest or service charges unless you default and carry a balance.

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I got this from Wooribank:
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Dear Mr. Ttompatz;

Thank you for using Woori bank service.

As for your inquiry, we have a credit card available to foreign residents.

However, there is a requirement you should meet, a time deposit, which Woori bank is going to take it as a security, and the minimum amount for that should be no less than w1,000,000.

When you are ready for this, please visit your local branch office with your ID card used for your account establishment (it could be either your alien card or passport) and the bankbook. We will be glad to help you.

If you have further questions, please send a message or call Woori Bank Customer Service at 02-2008-5000,#7. Our collect number is 080-365-5000,#7. Representatives are available to assist you from 9:30 AM Monday through to 5:30 PM Friday.

Thank you for using Woori Bank. We appreciate the opportunity to serve you.
Best regards,
Tina
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The way it works is your limit is ~95% of your deposit.
1.1 million won time deposit = 1 million won limit.
2.2 million won time deposit = 2 million won limit.

Your money is placed in a term deposit with an interest (as of Jan 2006) rate of about 4.5-5% and then you get a VISA card that can be used globally, can also be used for bus/subway domesticallyand gives discounts at various locations like Everland/LotteWorld (50%), theaters (2000won), various restaurants. etc.

If the clerk in the bank doesn't speak English, get them to phone the number listed above and the Customer service center will assist you with translation and take care of any problems. Takes about 30-35 minutes for the whole process. You get your card in the mail in about a week.

You can get your deposit back early simply by turning in your card and closing the account. Position and employer don't matter.

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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A CitiBank account is quite useful for expats alike, especially since they drop wire fees.

You can' get the CitiBank credit card, plus the credit line & mortgage features if you start with a $6000 balance. Basic account doesn't allow for a credit card but can still wire for free.

https://online.citibank.com/US/JRS/pands/detail.do?ID=Packages
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Proustian



Joined: 06 Jan 2008
Location: penniless in Pusan

PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know why people are lecturing others on not getting a CC - surely free will and self determinism are still fundamental human rights.

Samsung cards used to be freely available to Hagwon workers and several of my co-workers have one. Apparently, the rules changed in May - according to the samsung lady I spoke to today - although, she also said I could try and apply.

As for banks not offering CC's without a secured deposit, this is also nonsense as my girlfriend and my boss both have unsecured CC's from KB with no deposit down and 3k limits.

OP, keep searching and trying and you will get a CC.
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RMNC



Joined: 21 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone else amazed that credit cards still exist? I mean I thought with the advent of debit cards people would have moved to them exclusively, considering how credit cards are a waste of money and debit is an instantaneous withdrawal, something that happened very slowly in the check writing days, and debits made checks obsolete, so...

I guess some people just don't mind paying for things with imaginary money and hope that everything works out okay in the future. I guess I just don't get how people risk getting massive fines and debt all in the name of buying stuff and paying it off later. If you lose your income, you're screwed, even if it's just brief. Then again, most people don't think of a credit card as real money, just a magic swipey thing that will get you a TV and a Car.
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