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Heli Mike



Joined: 26 May 2010

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:11 pm    Post subject: Dinner with your students Reply with quote

I work at a university where I am responsible for a small class (6). They all are 22-23 Juniors. The group invited me to go out to dinner with them next week as a welcoming to the university.

Is this common?
Would you recommend going?
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balzor



Joined: 14 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Dinner with your students Reply with quote

Heli Mike wrote:
I work at a university where I am responsible for a small class (6). They all are 22-23 Juniors. The group invited me to go out to dinner with them next week as a welcoming to the university.

Is this common?
Would you recommend going?
You are all adults. As long as you are not trying to bed them, your integrity will remain intact
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I would recommend going. It sounds like a good opportunity to get to know them. Just be on your best behavior.

And beware that depending on what type of college students they are, they might try to get you drunk because you're the foreign teacher and it would be funny. Don't get too drunk, and don't let them pressure you to drink if you don't want to.
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Dinner with your students Reply with quote

balzor wrote:
You are all adults.


Sorry to be contrary, but college students are not considered adults in Korean culture. They are still very much dependent on their parents in many ways, and cannot be expected to behave like "adults" the way we understand the word. In Korea, adulthood comes after you get married.
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nathanrutledge



Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walk a fine line. You can't be too friendly with them, you give the grades. Corruption in Korea is like water in the ocean. At my middle school, one of y kids invited me to dinner AFTER grades had been posted AND he was graduating, plus he was the best student I had. My coworker found out about it and killed it; it could be considered a bribe.

I know that university students and teachers are a different situation, but again, be very very careful. Any APPEARANCE of impropriety can come back to bite you later.
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balzor



Joined: 14 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Dinner with your students Reply with quote

redaxe wrote:
balzor wrote:
You are all adults.


Sorry to be contrary, but college students are not considered adults in Korean culture. They are still very much dependent on their parents in many ways, and cannot be expected to behave like "adults" the way we understand the word. In Korea, adulthood comes after you get married.
fair enough, I don't deal with that age group too much so I guess i think in generalities about that
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machoman



Joined: 11 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

man, i wish i worked at a university.
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maingman



Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Location: left Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:22 pm    Post subject: , Reply with quote

http://forums.zynga.com/forumdisplay.php?f=157
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nathanrutledge wrote:
Walk a fine line. You can't be too friendly with them, you give the grades. Corruption in Korea is like water in the ocean. At my middle school, one of y kids invited me to dinner AFTER grades had been posted AND he was graduating, plus he was the best student I had. My coworker found out about it and killed it; it could be considered a bribe.

I know that university students and teachers are a different situation, but again, be very very careful. Any APPEARANCE of impropriety can come back to bite you later.


Yeah the only reason I think it's OK is because all his students are going.

OP should try not to give the appearance of favoring any student over another. Don't take the teacher "hat" off
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Ruthdes



Joined: 16 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Along with few discipline worries, dinner with students is the best part of teaching adults! I love going out with my students, especially the younger ones (i.e. mid 20s to mid 30s). However even the 50-something adjosshi are hilarious when you get them drunk and in noraebang! I also like proving that, yes, I do like somek! The other great thing is they usually pay (though I usually try to pay my share before they brush it off).

Having said that, I don't teach at a uni, but a private institute, and while I'm still responsible for grading them, it's much less formal. My school has no problem with this as long as it doesn't interfere with class time, and we're still on time for our lessons the next day (not easy when you have a 6:45 start...one of the decided DISadvantages of teaching adults!!!).
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fortysixyou



Joined: 08 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll be fun. You'll eat good food, play some drinking games, and get real drunk...

Then you'll pay for EVERYTHING.
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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My friend in China beds his university students. Or has very strong plans to. Apparently it's fine to do it there, and they almost expect it =/
I'm not sure which source this comes from but I have no reason to disbelieve.
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Sector7G



Joined: 24 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Globutron wrote:
My friend in China beds his university students. Or has very strong plans to. Apparently it's fine to do it there, and they almost expect it =/
I'm not sure which source this comes from but I have no reason to disbelieve.


I know a teacher in China who is an absolute dog otherwise, but refuses to cross that line with his uni students. That could come from what little integrity he does have but I think it is also pretty much universally frowned upon!
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