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machoman



Joined: 11 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:07 am    Post subject: if your gf has cramps Reply with quote

and she says it's terribly painful, what's the right thing to do?

i stayed at home, took a nap and went to the gym. now i'm in the pooper with her bc she says i should've came over and comforted her. but what can i really do? the pain is temporary and there's not much i can do. am i such a jerk about this?
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conrad2



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The right thing to do would be to dump her and get a new girlfriend who isnt so needy.
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, korean girlfriend problems

isn't it pretty obvious she wanted you to buy her some chocolate, come over and sit on the couch and watch TV with her and listen to her complain?
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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd have offered to visit, and then make various lies up about why i suddenly can't come, but sound really apologetic.
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Radius



Joined: 20 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol my gf tried this stuff early on in our relationship. Men, well Korean men, are expected to come over and clean and buy her food to take over when their girls are sick. lol most men from the West just arent like that.

I explained to my gf that I come from a society where individuality is the norm, and people usually look after theirselves. BUT, after some thought, i HAVE met her halfway with these issues. I think Westerners can be a bit selfish, so she has taught me to think of others (her) needs more than my own.

It's been nearly 8 months, and shes came a long way towards my side of the western dating world, though, too.
It took me awhile to break her habit of the trying to run out of my house after an argument and wanting my to chase her bit. that was lame, and i never ran after her. It used to make her more mad, now she knows better to act like a little girl and run outta the house before tyring to calmly discuss things like two adults.


Korean men, are lets face it, one of the most caring guys there are for their gf's in the world, and its always a shock to Korean girls to find out that western guys arent like the ones they see in the movies. K-girls have this notion that western men are EVEN more accomodating than korean men. Its just not so.


SO, OP, just stick to your guns, and they always come around. My cop-out was always, "sorry, its just culture" whenever i screwed up and my short comings came into play. SHe'll get over them eventually, and if not, you have to start allllll over a train a new k-girl how to be with a western man. I dont want to have to start over, the first 6 months was rough and I never want to clash cultures like that again with another female in Korea. Shocked
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly OP does it really matter if your Korean girlfriend gets mad at you? Do you want to marry her and stay in Korea teaching ESL forever, or bring her home with you? Or are you going to just break up with her and go home when your current contract is up?
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Gom



Joined: 05 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a good excuse for a shared bath Wink
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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lol my gf tried this stuff early on in our relationship. Men, well Korean men, are expected to come over and clean and buy her food to take over when their girls are sick. lol most men from the West just arent like that.


And here's where I disagree. The girls I was with and the girls who were with my friends almost always showed a high expectancy for the guys to be around whenever they ask. Most of my friends faded out of my life when they got into a relationship because the demand by the girl was too high.

It was pretty sickening. I was the exception in my group, Since I'd just end up telling my last ex that I'd rather hang out with friends, but she can come along if she wants too.
Needless to say that one didn't last.

I've decided I'm far too westernly selfish to even bother attempting a relationship now. At least until I'm old enough to realise time is running out and I suddenly become desperate in some kind of freak midlife crisis.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

conrad2 wrote:
The right thing to do would be to dump her and get a new girlfriend who isnt so needy.


Yes. Multiple postings about problems in your relationship=sign you need to break up.

Furthermore, this is a rather dumb question. Redaxe's answer is indeed obvious:

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isn't it pretty obvious she wanted you to buy her some chocolate, come over and sit on the couch and watch TV with her and listen to her complain?
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princess



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is why I prefer Korean men...But still, not ALL Korean men are very caring when it comes to things like this...and...not all western men are the type to ignore a girl. Men are men first and foremost the world over. Some are nice, some are not...and not all Korean men are wonderful...some can be nice one day and a jerk the next...and some can be very cold. But, isn't that what having a boyfriend or husband is all about...having someone you can lean on and having someone who will treat you like a princess? If not, I'd rather be alone...And, even though I am western I am not one of those die-hard uber feminist types...Those women ruin it for the rest of us girls. They are the reason many men are not nice and caring anymore...I mean, geez, my uncle's wife's brother said he held the door open once for a woman, and she bit his head off...He said he will never hold the door for a woman again...Thank you feminists...Feminists are also the reason why some Korean men are scared of us white girls...they think we are all a bunch of dominant bossy women...when in fact, I am quite submissive...submitting to a man is hot...Not to mention, feminism and Gloria Steinem are backed by the evil new world order puppets...they know it leads to the breakdown of the family unit.
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Illysook



Joined: 30 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose that I need a little Princess type advice because Korean men absolutely mystify me and seem as bad or worse than western men. I've been out with 2 different Korean guys and on neither occasion was I very certain that we were on a date. I met both of these guys at church. Perhaps the Christian dating scene (or the lack thereof) is what is to blame. I've been to churches where one is (unofficially) not allowed to date until one is a small group leader. That was a long time ago, but I'm in leadership training now...just in case! Very Happy

So, how is it that you can know if the shy Korean guy is into you? Not that I think either of these guys are anymore, but it would be real nice to just once go on a date and know that I was on a date. It's enough to drive a girl bonkers.
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radius wrote:


It took me awhile to break her habit of the trying to run out of my house after an argument and wanting my to chase her bit.


OMG, are you dating my girlfriend? But seriously, same problem here. It took me nearly 3 months to get her to stop that nonsense...as well as me paying for every meal (I think relationships should be a partnership. I still pay more now because she is still a student and I understand I have more fiscal leverage, but she has been much more considerate and offers to pay where before it was just expected that I do it).

Also her splitting up to meet her girlfriends when we were at a bar together. "I haven't seen them in forever, and you have friends here. I haven't seen them in so long." "That isn't the point."

Her defense in all of these instances was "I hardly ever fought with my ex-bf (because he cheated or was a pushover), I didn't know, my ex-bf always paid for me (pushover), and "My ex-bf never minded when I left him to meet my girlfriends! (cheated or pushover). Both her ex-bfs were Korean and I, being somewhat insensitive, asked her if they really enjoy her and her friends actions? She said "I don't see why not" then I pointedly reminded her that EVERY SINGLE ONE of her girlfriends have been cheated on by their ex-boyfriends. She then understood that men need to feel appreciated as well or they will move on.

I am so glad to finally be past these 'cultural differences'

However, enough rambling. If my girlfriend was sick, I would have gone over to see her/take care of her, or listen to her complain...at least for a couple hours. If you cared about her, you would want to do that.


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tottenhamtaipeinick



Joined: 05 Sep 2010
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

princess wrote:
This is why I prefer Korean men...But still, not ALL Korean men are very caring when it comes to things like this...and...not all western men are the type to ignore a girl. Men are men first and foremost the world over. Some are nice, some are not...and not all Korean men are wonderful...some can be nice one day and a jerk the next...and some can be very cold. But, isn't that what having a boyfriend or husband is all about...having someone you can lean on and having someone who will treat you like a princess? If not, I'd rather be alone...And, even though I am western I am not one of those die-hard uber feminist types...Those women ruin it for the rest of us girls. They are the reason many men are not nice and caring anymore...I mean, geez, my uncle's wife's brother said he held the door open once for a woman, and she bit his head off...He said he will never hold the door for a woman again...Thank you feminists...Feminists are also the reason why some Korean men are scared of us white girls...they think we are all a bunch of dominant bossy women...when in fact, I am quite submissive...submitting to a man is hot...Not to mention, feminism and Gloria Steinem are backed by the evil new world order puppets...they know it leads to the breakdown of the family unit.


Haha the last bit of your thread is why I will keep away from Australian women. I have two young women who work under me and I am close to them now and omg I would run for the hills before getting in a r/ship with them. I cannot communicate with Aussie girls now after being to far in with Taiwanese/Asian culture. Aussie guys to them are dumb muscle morons who need a guiding hand in life. That I cant stand. A lot of women in Australia seem to be so strong I am scared of them, even these two women who work under me I am scared of HAHAHA!...... I treat my gf like a princess and she boasts to her Korean friends, once again this is the asian way to look at things! It all comes down to face.
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

princess wrote:
having someone who will treat you like a princess?


You don't think men want to be treated like the apple of your eye as well? THIS is why chivalry died: women expected men to always be at their beck and call, and they did not reciprocate.

Put yourself in his shoes and think about the man sometimes...the good ones do it for you everyday. We aren't robots.

I treat my girlfriend like a princess and she also gets to show off and brag, but I demand reciprocity (however I don't reciprocate the "OMG look at the sweet tie my girlfriend bought me! Aren't you soooo jealous?")

Also, women make as much as men nowadays, so it isn't fair for the man to always pay for dinner so the woman can buy a Prada bag.
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Xylox



Joined: 09 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

princess wrote:
This is why I prefer Korean men...But still, not ALL Korean men are very caring when it comes to things like this...and...not all western men are the type to ignore a girl. Men are men first and foremost the world over. Some are nice, some are not...and not all Korean men are wonderful...some can be nice one day and a jerk the next...and some can be very cold. But, isn't that what having a boyfriend or husband is all about...having someone you can lean on and having someone who will treat you like a princess? If not, I'd rather be alone...And, even though I am western I am not one of those die-hard uber feminist types...Those women ruin it for the rest of us girls. They are the reason many men are not nice and caring anymore...I mean, geez, my uncle's wife's brother said he held the door open once for a woman, and she bit his head off...He said he will never hold the door for a woman again...Thank you feminists...Feminists are also the reason why some Korean men are scared of us white girls...they think we are all a bunch of dominant bossy women...when in fact, I am quite submissive...submitting to a man is hot...Not to mention, feminism and Gloria Steinem are backed by the evil new world order puppets...they know it leads to the breakdown of the family unit.


Citation needed.
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