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[aussie col]

This pops up every now and then when people are commenting about good contracts. I��d like to know just how many of you out there are getting paid by the minute and not by the class.

For example: If your contract says 120 hours per month, do you work:

(For this example a class is 45 minutes)

1. 120 x 45 minute classes = 120 classes a month.

or

2. 120 x 60minutes = 7200minutes / 45 = 160 classes a month.


By luck my first contract was like No 1. But I��m finding it difficult now to find another school that does this. They all seem to want you doing more like 160 classes a month.

So my question is should I give up on finding a contract like number 1 and just put up with having 8 classes a day?

[Homer]

aussi-col,

I think you should insist on being paid per minute and at a premium too!

Or, failing that insist on being paid by the day and included a contractual clause that states that you will be paid x amount per day for no more than 10 minutes of work and no less than zero.

That should work.

[shawner88]

[aussie col]

I don��t see why some people find it so offensive to be paid for the work that they do. I mean if it takes you 15 minutes to prep a class why not be paid for it? Every other job in the world you get paid by how much work you actually do.

Imagine if your boss started watching you at your desk job and timed how long you actually were writing for or looking at your computer screen. Then at the end of the month he says ��you were only typing at your computer for XX minutes so you will only be paid for that time.�� ��All the time spent at the photocopier or answering your phone you do not get paid for.��

[crazylemongirl]

[ryleeys]

[Arthur Fonzerelli]

per hour.

I get paid for 16 hours but actually only work 11 hours a week at my uni gig..

[Dawn]

My school pays by neither the hour nor the number of classes taught. Instead, all teachers teach the same number of hours at the same times (classes set up the first of January and generally don't change until the next January) and get paid a flat monthly salary in return. Scares the bejeebers out of folks looking for that infamous "number of hours" clause in the contract, and we've had a couple refuse to sign because of it (their loss), but overall it's worked really well. Every one of us knows what our working hours are this month, what they'll be next month, and what they'll be six months from now. There's no getting called in early to cover for somebody or being asked to stay late. There's no debate over whether prep time should be paid or unpaid. The contract outlines all major out-of-classroom duties (speech contests, annual presentations, special events, report card writing, grading, etc), and teachers know before they ever sign the dotted line that their above-average monthly salaries cover all school-related tasks.

In a sense, the lack of the "teaching hours" clause frees both the teachers and the administrators to focus primarily instruction. Teachers need only do what they said they signed a contract stating they would do and pick up their pay envelopes twice a month. They don't have to count and double count their cash to make sure they got what they were supposed to get. Meantime, the administration doesn't have to come up with extra cash during long months or fret over teachers not getting their hours in during short months. If we end up with 25 teaching days in a month, they know we'll be where were supposed to be doing what we're supposed to do during all of them. On the flip side, if we end up with only 15 days or so due to holidays/vacations/etc., we teachers know we'll still be paid in full and on time.

[Homer]

Both of my parents are teachers back home aussie.

They get paid on salary, not per hour.

Their job responsabilites (the paid ones) do not include time spent grading papers as this was not deemed part of a Teachers school duties....


Shawner, nice try man....I was merely being sarcastic.

[crazylemongirl]

[TheUrbanMyth]

[Mr. Pink]

Pretty sure I get paid by the class, not hour.

[Zyzyfer]

This "by the class/by the hour" stuff is only there to deal with overtime potential, since there's a large possibility for it. As to the math behind it, you're welcome to do the math and debate the issue with your school-to-be.

[Dawn]

[ryleeys]

Good god, a school that has REASONS for scheduling the way it does?