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To teach or not to teach....private lessons that is.
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Have you ever taught under the table?
Yes.
37%
 37%  [ 10 ]
No.
40%
 40%  [ 11 ]
Yes, and I do it with impunity.
22%
 22%  [ 6 ]
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cdnguy



Joined: 07 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 7:04 am    Post subject: To teach or not to teach....private lessons that is. Reply with quote

I am surprised not to have seen any posts on teaching illegal private lessons. I know teaching privately is most often illegal in korea but so are the midnight runs that seem to get a lot of discussion.

What is the deal?
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Cogito



Joined: 17 Feb 2004
Location: Around

PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has been discussed before (can't remember where, though) and some of the posters make no secret of their "extra curricular" activities. As for me, I don't really need the extra stress or cash.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cndguy...do a search...you will find tons of threads discussing pvts, the rates, the frequency, the yes or no of it, the size, color, smell and any other details.

Good luck.
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kiwiboy_nz_99



Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...

PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Have you ever taught under the table?

Some of my lessons have ended up under the table, but by then I wasn't teaching English ...
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Badmojo



Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round

PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd aggressively pursue private lessons if it weren't for the carrots hanging over me at the end of my deal. You get into the eighth and ninth month of a contract, there's no way you jeopardize flight money and bonus money for a little cash.

Now if I re-signed here with no intention of fulfilling the deal, that is, if I knew I was leaving after three months no matter what, then I'd be all over private lessons from day one of that contract.
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Toby



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The odd one or two doesn't do any harm. Just like a beer when you finish work.

Keeps the mind ticking if you teach adults privately and kids in your day job.
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Toby



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 4:28 am    Post subject: Re: To teach or not to teach....private lessons that is. Reply with quote

kangnamdragon wrote:
cdnguy wrote:
I am surprised not to have seen any posts on teaching illegal private lessons. I know teaching privately is most often illegal in korea but so are the midnight runs that seem to get a lot of discussion.

What is the deal?


Is this your first day on the internet? Seriously, they are illegal.


Yes. That they are. But it would be interesting to know how many teachers here in Korea either have taught or are teaching privates.
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cacheSurfer



Joined: 07 Dec 2003

PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 5:03 am    Post subject: Re: To teach or not to teach....private lessons that is. Reply with quote

cdnguy wrote:
I am surprised not to have seen any posts on teaching illegal private lessons. I know teaching privately is most often illegal in korea but so are the midnight runs that seem to get a lot of discussion.

What is the deal?



thats a rather familiar looking avatar. (and only 4 posts)

who are you and why do you ask?
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komtengi



Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Location: Slummin it up in Haebangchon

PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:25 am    Post subject: Re: To teach or not to teach....private lessons that is. Reply with quote

kangnamdragon wrote:
cdnguy wrote:
I am surprised not to have seen any posts on teaching illegal private lessons. I know teaching privately is most often illegal in korea but so are the midnight runs that seem to get a lot of discussion.

What is the deal?


Is this your first day on the internet? Seriously, they are illegal.


and nowbody here breaks the law... Rolling Eyes right?
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Homer
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Komtengi,

How does that justify anything illegal?

Just because some people break laws does that make it ok for you or me to do so?
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The Man known as The Man



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!

PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
Komtengi,

How does that justify anything illegal?

Just because some people break laws does that make it ok for you or me to do so?


You are somewhat right-why should he even think of justifying himself when teaching privates-be inner directed, man!
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komtengi



Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Location: Slummin it up in Haebangchon

PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
Komtengi,

How does that justify anything illegal?

Just because some people break laws does that make it ok for you or me to do so?


Im aware that it is illegal. So you have never once broken the law in your life, even the smallest of laws? My point being that so many people are on Daves being so righteous about this, that and the other when most of the time they have done the same or similar things before.
Pls do not take this at a dig at you personally. Its more the ethos of people spouting how pc they all are
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jurassic5



Joined: 02 Apr 2003
Location: PA

PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm just curious as to how they catch people doing privates... Confused


i mean, if you go to the person/family's apartment...can't you just say you are visiting? or do they like to wire people. haha
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bithy75



Joined: 01 Feb 2004
Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm wondering too...how do people get caught doing privates? If you're in a public place, does someone come and "tap you on the shoulder"? If you go to someone's home, how can you ever get caught that way? What about language exchanges? If I meet the same person at Starbuck's every week for a language exchange, couldn't someone accuse me of doing an illegal private lesson? In fact, this is the case for me. I meet two friends of mine every week at a coffee shop to study English and Korean. We don't exchange any money, but we really do study together. Also, so many Koreans have approached me about doing privates as if it were the most normal thing in the world. Nobody even mentions the illegality of it. So, I'm wondering, how paranoid should we be?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jurassic,

Thats easy: someone informs on you, immifration follows you around for a little while, taking note of where you go and at what times.
Then they talk to some of your students (the pvt ones) and voila your busted.
Then they bust you with all the evidence they need.
Some of them have used wire transfers or issuance of travellers checks to prove that a teacher was earning money from pvt lessons.
For example, if a teacher sends home 100% of his or her wages home everymonth it could lead immigration to wonder (after they had reason to investigate) how that person pays for living here since all of his wages are sent home....


komtengi,

No worries about taking it personnally. I do see your point. I still maintain however that the fact that some people break the law does not justify or excuse another person breaking the law.
There could be of course a debate on the justification for breaking laws. A person who cannot provide for his or her family because of certain conditions or laws would be justified in breaking a law or two, for example working illegaly, so that they could provide for their family.
Teachers in Korea do not qualify like that.
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