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recessiontime

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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:04 pm Post subject: CNN fires Rick Sanchez |
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Firing from CNN
During an interview on Sirius XM's radio show Stand Up With Pete Dominick, on September 30, 2010, Sanchez called Jon Stewart a "bigot"; after questioning, Sanchez backed down from using the term and refereed to Stewart as "prejudicial" and "uninformed". When queried on the issue of whether Stewart likewise belonged to a minority group on account of his Jewish ethnicity, Sanchez responded,
"Yeah, very powerless people. [laughs] He's such a minority. I mean, you know, please. What�are you kidding? I'm telling you that everybody who runs CNN is a lot like Stewart, and a lot of people who run all the other networks are a lot like Stewart. And to imply that somehow they, the people in this country who are Jewish, are an oppressed minority?"
Sanchez's comments were interpreted by CBS News and MSNBC as an assertion that Jews controlled CNN and other networks His statements during the radio show were made during a discussion concerning the extent to which Jews in the United States faced overtly or covertly discriminatory attitudes, compared to Latinos. Sanchez also vented his negative feelings about Jon Stewart's portrayal of him in Stewart's news-oriented show on Comedy Central, The Daily Show.
Sanchez described his percieved experiences with prejudice at news networks when he said, "It's not just the right that does this. 'Cause I've known a lot of elite, Northeast establishment liberals that may not use this as a business model, but deep down, when they look at a guy like me, they look at a ... they see a guy automatically who belongs in the second tier and not the top tier ... White folks usually don't see it, but we do, those of us who are minorities ... Here, I'll give you my example, it's this, 'You know what, I don't want you anchoring anymore. I really don't see you as an anchor, I see you more as a reporter. I see you more as a Jon Quinones.' You know, the guy on ABC. That's what he told me, he told me he saw me as John Quinones. Now, did he not realize that he was telling me, 'when I see you I think of Hispanic reporters?' 'Cause in his mind, I can't be an anchor, an anchor's what you give the high profile white guys."
In the day following his remarks, CNN announced that Sanchez was no longer employed with the company
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Sanchez#Firing_from_CNN
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catman

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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Jews are not visible minorites. They're white. Just like Sanchez.
Don't like Sanchez. He was CNN's lame attempt to be like Fox with O'Reilly and Beck. He was nothing but a clown.
Wish he wasn't fired though. He'll now be a martyr for the "Jew-Conspiracy" theorists. |
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Adventurer

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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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First of all, I think Rick Sanchez has a chip on his shoulder. I mean people could say that Mexican Americans have it worse than Cuban Americans. I agree with him that Jews do not have it bad in America. They are treated definitely on par with WASPs. This was not the case in the past, some decades ago. As far as there being Jews in the media, that's most definitely true, but to say that everyone who is Jewish and in the media is like John Stewart is simply ignorance. John Stewart is Jewish and so is Wolf Blitzer. Blitzer defends Israel very heavily in private at talks. John Stewart publicly criticizes Israel through comedy by using his show, though he is Jewish like Blitzer. Imagine if we said all Cuban Americans are Rick Sanchez.
John Stewart isn't Wolf Blitzer or Mortimer Zuckerman anymore than Tedd Koppel is like Blitzer or Zuckerman. Also, Klein from the New York Times defended Muslims building an Islamic center 2 blocks from
"Ground Zero". I am not sorry to see Rick go after that. |
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catman

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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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Adventurer wrote: |
Imagine if we said all Cuban Americans are Rick Sanchez.
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Good point. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Joel Stein
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But I don't care if Americans think we're running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them. |
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/celebrity/la-oe-stein19-2008dec19,0,2313474.column
Notice the separation between Stein (who is American) and "Americans" and their perception of ownership. Further notice that what he writes is perfectly true. Jews may discuss Jewish power.
Joe Sobran, who was knee-capped by Kristol at the National Review (the final nail in the conservative coffin - total Jewish dominance of all conservative publications of any weight) said:
Sobran:
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Jewish control of the major media in the media age makes the enforced silence both paradoxical and paralyzing. Survival in public life requires that you know all about it, but never refer to it. A hypocritical etiquette forces us to pretend that the Jews are powerless victims; and if you don�t respect their victimhood, they�ll destroy you. It�s a phenomenal display not of wickedness, really, but of fierce ethnocentrism, a sort of furtive racial superpatriotism. |
Sobran died this week.
Ok, well Sanchez isn't down on the whole white guilt towards Jews thing. I've never ever met a Hispanic who is. The victim competition should be interesting in the future.
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So, what's the big deal right? I used to think so. I never could understand why the anti-war protests re: Iraq were given so little coverage. I now know. The war was for Israel and the media is loyal to Israel.
Remember when Wesley Clark said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/dc-notes-wes-clark-is-ste_b_37837.html
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"How can you talk about bombing a country when you won't even talk to them?" said Clark. "It's outrageous. We're the United States of America; we don't do that. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the military option is off the table -- but diplomacy is not what Jim Baker says it is. It's not, What will it take for you boys to support us on Iraq? It's sitting down for a couple of days and talking about our families and our hopes, and building relationships."
When we asked him what made him so sure the Bush administration was headed in this direction, he replied: "You just have to read what's in the Israeli press. The Jewish community is divided but there is so much pressure being channeled from the New York money people to the office seekers." |
That is to say, rich right wing Jews want war. They don't want to fight in wars mind you, that's for the kids of those Tea Baggers to do (shall I point out that the Jewish media drips with open racism against white Middle America? But they'll accept Joe from Nebraska being blown to bits for Israel. They'll call him a racist if he says more than two words though). But they want war. And they own the media. What Americans understand as truth is really propaganda from hyper-wealthy Jews (and Rupurt too).
Matthew Yglesias (who is Jewish):
http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?articleId=12394
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According to Huffington's January 4 recounting of Clark's thoughts, he said this: "You just have to read what's in the Israeli press. The Jewish community is divided but there is so much pressure being channeled from the New York money people to the office seekers."
This, of course, is true. I'm Jewish and I don't think the United States should bomb Iran, but Thursday night I was talking to a Jewish friend and she does think the United States should bomb Iran. The Jewish community, in short, is divided on the issue. It's also true that most major American Jewish organizations cater to the views of extremely wealthy major donors whose political views are well to the right of the bulk of American Jews, one of the most liberal ethnic groups in the country. Furthermore, it's true that major Jewish organizations are trying to push the country into war. And, last, it's true that if you read the Israeli press you'll see that right-wing Israeli politicians are anticipating a military confrontation with Iran. (For example, here's an article about the timing of the selection of a new top dog in the Israeli Defense Forces; Benjamin Netanyahu is quoted as saying that the new leader "will have to straighten the army out, rebuild Israel's deterrence and prepare the defenses against threats, first and foremost, against Iran.")
Everything Clark said, in short, is true. What's more, everybody knows it's true.
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The Jewish dominance of American media is not just an American issue. It is a global issue. One million Iraqi's are dead because of what these people convinced America to do in Iraq. It will take brass balls and a willingness to be called an anti-semite by Foxman or that ass from Harvard Dershowitz (who convinced the Americans not to execute Pollard) if we are going to prevent one million Iranians from joining their neighbors 6 feet under. America is too powerful to remain the plaything of psychotic zionists (is that ok Warrior?). We peace loving people must be prepared to be called very bad names by very bad people if we are to avert catastrophe.
This is among the most important issues of our time. War with Iran must be avoided at virtually all costs. |
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mises
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The Happy Warrior
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Ha, I knew mises would come out swinging on this one. Do you sympathize with Sanchez's class resentment?
There's a middle ground between Pat Buchanan and Bill Kristol.
Anyway, to the actual point of the thread: Sanchez is wrong, at worst Jon Stewart is a self-important funny man. The resentment coming from Sanchez is really weird, but somewhat symptomatic of baby boomer elites. |
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catman

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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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The Jewish dominance of American media is not just an American issue. It is a global issue. One million Iraqi's are dead because of what these people convinced America to do in Iraq. |
If I didn't know you any better I would say this was an excuse for the Christian dominated Bush administration.  |
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mises
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Do you sympathize with Sanchez's class resentment? |
It's an ethnic resentment. And yes. Jews are not victims.
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There's a middle ground between Pat Buchanan and Bill Kristol. |
Ron Paul.
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The resentment coming from Sanchez is really weird, but somewhat symptomatic of baby boomer elites. |
Oh no dude. It's ethnic. You gotta understand Hispanic culture for this. Even white elite Hispanics have absorbed the idea that the federalies are hiding behind a bush just waiting to throw them back across the border.
Oh, and Sanchez is from Miami. Actually, he got drunk and hit a man with his car a few years back. Paralyzed the victim and Sanchez left the scene of the accident. That didn't harm his job prospects. Mentioning Voldermort did. Sanchez is a character.
Ok, so in Miami the Hispanics (Cubans) and Jews compete for political power. Jews have money and Hispanics have votes. Sanchez comes from that environment. |
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mises
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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catman wrote: |
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The Jewish dominance of American media is not just an American issue. It is a global issue. One million Iraqi's are dead because of what these people convinced America to do in Iraq. |
If I didn't know you any better I would say this was an excuse for the Christian dominated Bush administration.  |
I wish it was. It wasn't. Look into the Office of Special Plans. |
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The Happy Warrior
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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mises wrote: |
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The resentment coming from Sanchez is really weird, but somewhat symptomatic of baby boomer elites. |
Oh no dude. It's ethnic. You gotta understand Hispanic culture for this. Even white elite Hispanics have absorbed the idea that the federalies are hiding behind a bush just waiting to throw them back across the border.
Oh, and Sanchez is from Miami. Actually, he got drunk and hit a man with his car a few years back. Paralyzed the victim and Sanchez left the scene of the accident. That didn't harm his job prospects. Mentioning Voldermort did. Sanchez is a character.
Ok, so in Miami the Hispanics (Cubans) and Jews compete for political power. Jews have money and Hispanics have votes. Sanchez comes from that environment. |
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I suspect you're right, I don't know Miami but I have heard its Jews and Cubans there. |
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recessiontime

Joined: 21 Jun 2010 Location: Got avatar privileges nyahahaha
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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The Happy Warrior wrote: |
Anyway, to the actual point of the thread: Sanchez is wrong, at worst Jon Stewart is a self-important funny man. |
let's not confuse the issue. It's not relevant what Sanchez thinks about another comedian.
The more relevant fact is, Sanchez was an anchor at CNN for 6 years and he believes Jews run things at the top levels of CNN and other major networks.
The real question is, do you find that convincing or not? Is Sanchez a liar, an anti-Semite, or both? |
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The Happy Warrior
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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recessiontime wrote: |
The Happy Warrior wrote: |
Anyway, to the actual point of the thread: Sanchez is wrong, at worst Jon Stewart is a self-important funny man. |
The real question is, do you find that convincing or not? Is Sanchez a liar, an anti-Semite, or both? |
Am I supposed to gaze into his soul? |
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mises
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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There is no question that he is right.
The question is what is the impact? To what end?
I went and saw this leftist Jewish professor speak about the wars and such a month ago. He went on and on about how Americans are war mongers. It's part of European imperialism and Christian expansionism. Red neck this, tea bagger that.
You see, this is what we get. One the one hand the hoards of sub-100 IQ whites watch the idiot box all day and absorb the propaganda and then when they act and believe as told they get shouted down as being immoral pigs. Middle America is so stupid right? They don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. Yeah, that's true. They all believe stupid things. Because they're immoral? Or because the people with a direct line into their minds are immoral. Where's the blame? That pisses me off just about as much as the wars themselves. I see Naomi Klein and Avi Lewis and Jeremy Schahill and Glenn Greenwald etc etc etc giving lectures that are essentially "Americans are dumb war mongers" and all I can think of is how apropos it is that chutzpa is a Hebrew word. |
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The Happy Warrior
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Its hard for me to say voting for war is immoral in the first place. Wrong? In many cases, yes. But wrong as in error, a mistake, misguided at most.
But actually going to war, as an Executive, or voting for war as a Representative, that's different. Its more weighty.
And the pundits? Well . . . |
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