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warren pease



Joined: 12 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:53 am    Post subject: soju. Ok, what is it? Reply with quote

I'm a HUGE soju fan, but i've run into some naysayers recently that have been putting the crystal happiness down.

What I really want to know is what it's made out of. I'm guessing it isn't the pure rice wine it once was, but I'm not willing to believe that it's an evil chemical amalgamation of doom. The latest naysayer stated like she knew as a fact that soju was not made from anything organic and is, in fact, just a man made chemical mixed with some water.

Surely this can't be true. I realize there is a bit of formaldehyde left in, but as far as I know, or am willing to accept, it's still the wonderful end result of fermentation.

Anyone with some actual info would be great. i.e. I'm not really interested in what you're buddy at work told you.

Thanks in advance - you're beautiful
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redaxe



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just neutral spirits (distilled ethyl alcohol) with water and a little high fructose corn syrup added.
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warren pease



Joined: 12 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what does that mean? No rice? No fermentation? No yeast poop? Is it better or worse? Is it less healthy than normal booze?
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Caffeinated



Joined: 11 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

redaxe wrote:
It's just neutral spirits (distilled ethyl alcohol) with water and a little high fructose corn syrup added.


It's this, but it's not soju until after the devil drinks it and and pisses it into one of those bottles.
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the answer.
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J Rock



Joined: 17 Jan 2009
Location: The center of the Earth, Suji

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always thought it was made from either rice or potatoes, whatever it's made from it gives me a headache and the runs!

Towards the end of my soju drinking days I would mix it with orange juice to make it a little more bearable but the next day just wasn't worth it.
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Wishmaster



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soju is pure swill...just nasty, garbage stuff. Considering how Koreans pound the stuff, I'm amazed that they make it to 40. Shocked
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

warren pease wrote:
what does that mean? No rice? No fermentation? No yeast poop? Is it better or worse? Is it less healthy than normal booze?


There is fermentation but rice is too expensive for soju, instead they use sweet potatoes, tapioca, and other inexpensive root starches. Any starch will do. Then they take the resulting fermented alcoholic brew and distill it (heat it up and capture the ethyl alcohol vapors) to get pure neutral spirits. Then they water it down and add a little bit of HFCS to sweeten it.

As for the health question, define "normal booze?"

You can basically just think of soju as weak vodka. That's really what it is.
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here you go buddy

Soju Ingredients
Korean soju is generally created from rice. However, during these modern times, manufacturers in South Korea are replacing the rice with a creative medley of ingredients, including:
�barley
�dangmil
�potato
�sweet potato
�wheat.
When you buy sojo, you'll notice that the liquid is clear in color. Its alcohol by volume (ABV) varies from 20 to 40 percent.

Korean soju is often compared to vodka; however, it has a sweeter taste because of the added sugar. Worldwide, soju outsells vodka by many units.
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redaxe



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Here you go buddy

Soju Ingredients
Korean soju is generally created from rice. However, during these modern times, manufacturers in South Korea are replacing the rice with a creative medley of ingredients, including:
�barley
�dangmil
�potato
�sweet potato
�wheat.
When you buy sojo, you'll notice that the liquid is clear in color. Its alcohol by volume (ABV) varies from 20 to 40 percent.

Korean soju is often compared to vodka; however, it has a sweeter taste because of the added sugar. Worldwide, soju outsells vodka by many units.


Question Exclamation Shocked

That HAS to be because soju is weaker and comes in a much smaller bottle than vodka. In number of bottles, maybe. In total volume, no freaking way.
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RMNC



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You see, there's this thing called Google...
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand Korean sweet potatoes are used as the starch part of the deal. I can't say what the other ingredients would be, but I know it can't be good. The buzz wasn't square on and the next day misery just made it not worth it after trying it two times. There's another soju called, "ooondalsum," that's made from bamboo, but it too is the devils sweat in disguise.
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Louis VI



Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linguistically, the word soju is the Korean rendering of the Chinese "shaojiu", which literally means �burned liquor�.

It's been said soju came from Japan. Here's a more romantic Korean version of the history:

Quote:
Soju was first distilled around 1300s during the Mongol invasions of Korea. The Mongols had acquired the technique of distilling arak from the Persians during their invasion of Central Asia/Middle East around 1256, then it was subsequently introduced to Koreans and distilleries were set up around the city of Kaesong. Indeed, in the area surrounding Kaesong, soju is known as arak-ju.
From 1965 until 1991, in order to alleviate rice shortages, the Korean government prohibited the traditional direct distillation of soju from fermented grain. Instead, highly distilled ethanol from any source was mixed with water and flavorings to create diluted soju . Although the prohibition had been lifted, cheap soju continues to be made this way. The Korean government regulates the alcohol content of diluted soju to less than 35%.

http://articleleader.info/soju-bus-truck-wash-machine-tunnel-car-wash-systems/

One local told me soju is now usually made from petroleum, in effect, industrial waste. If so, it's just like the fluoride in toothpaste back home.
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tatertot



Joined: 21 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

redaxe wrote:
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Here you go buddy

Soju Ingredients
Korean soju is generally created from rice. However, during these modern times, manufacturers in South Korea are replacing the rice with a creative medley of ingredients, including:
�barley
�dangmil
�potato
�sweet potato
�wheat.
When you buy sojo, you'll notice that the liquid is clear in color. Its alcohol by volume (ABV) varies from 20 to 40 percent.

Korean soju is often compared to vodka; however, it has a sweeter taste because of the added sugar. Worldwide, soju outsells vodka by many units.


Question Exclamation Shocked

That HAS to be because soju is weaker and comes in a much smaller bottle than vodka. In number of bottles, maybe. In total volume, no freaking way.

I would guess that it is by bottle because of the wording (units). At first I thought that was a pretty incredible statement. But then, I realized that "worldwide" includes South Korea Laughing So basically, that statement means that South Koreans purchase more bottles of soju than the rest of the world purchases bottles of vodka. Amazing!

However, that's not so incredible when you can purchase a bottle of soju for US $0.83 at your local corner mart.
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machoman



Joined: 11 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've read in an article that rice is illegal to be used in making alcohol. but apparently those days are over?


History:

Soju was first distilled in Korea in the 1300s, and historians believe that the Mongols brought the Persian technique to Korea. It became one of the most popular spirits in Korea over the centuries until the Japanese occupation, when soju production was strangled and sake and beer became more popular. Following the liberation of Korea from Japan and the Korean War years in the 1950s, soju production was again in jeopardy by the rice shortage in the 1960s. The government made it illegal to use rice for soju, so instead distilleries began to use sweet potatoes, wheat, barley, and tapioca as replacements.

Soju Today:

Most soju today is made not just with rice, but in combination with wheat, barley, tapioca, or sweet potato. Many members of the older generation prefer the stronger bottles of soju, but younger folks like the milder taste of the lower alcohol content varieties. Flavored soju is also now popular in flavors like apple, lemon, and peach, and it is also used in mixed drinks and alcoholic punches.

http://koreanfood.about.com/od/drinks/p/Soju.htm
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