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floor heating or space heater? what's more economical?

 
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Nuggets



Joined: 23 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:55 am    Post subject: floor heating or space heater? what's more economical? Reply with quote

So, winter is coming up and I was wondering from everyone's experience, which is more economical? The floor heating usually uses gas along withe electricity. Where the space heater only uses electricity. One can be more efficient than the other. I have a regular studio apartment, so nothing too big to heat. I tried asking the coworkers, and never get a straight answer, i.e. 'Floor heating is healthier!'
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Radius



Joined: 20 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

use ondol. When you turn off the space heater the heat and warmth stop. But the ondol keeps your place warm for hours aftter you turn it off because the pipes in the floor stay hot, and i love walking on a warm floor.
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Nuggets



Joined: 23 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

um, thanks for the reply.

Maybe I should rephrase my question......


Which one is cheaper?
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Carla



Joined: 21 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nuggets wrote:
um, thanks for the reply.

Maybe I should rephrase my question......


Which one is cheaper?


He did answer your question in a round about way, he just didn't put it in simple terms.

Space heaters are required to be on constantly to keep you warm, which is the goal here. They require huge amounts of energy.

The ondol does require gas too, but once the floor gets warm (which it does quickly in a small place) you can turn it off and the (inventing a new term here) "heat momentum" continues.

You might actually have to get out some research notes and a calculator if you wanted to leave the ondol on all time time (and it would vary depending on what temperature you will leave it on) to find out which one would be cheaper. Leaving the ondol on all the time in a small apartment really dries you out and gets too hot.

So, as the other guy said, use the ondol.

Another thing to think about, if you use a space heater, all heat disappears if you open any door or window. Then you have to wait until the heat builds up again.
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dharma bum



Joined: 15 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might want to check out this recent thread: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=192584&highlight=ondol
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Nuggets



Joined: 23 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was looking for a thread like this, but the search at Dave's sucks and wigged out so I started a new thread. Thanks!
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Carla



Joined: 21 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nuggets wrote:
I was looking for a thread like this, but the search at Dave's sucks and wigged out so I started a new thread. Thanks!


Ya, I hate the search too, but luckily there are nice people who can search for specific threads. You can also try http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fforums.eslcafe.com%2Fkorea%2F+&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

I have it saved on my bookmarks for searches. I hope it helps.
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dharma bum



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the search function here is no good. I had just seen the thread recently and so knew where to look for it, but those Google search settings are the way to go.
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zhanknight



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now if I could only get my Ondol to turn on, I'd be set. Very Happy
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nomad-ish



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i hate my ondol this year. i live in a loft, i feel no heat from that damn floor!
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decolyon



Joined: 24 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I asked a lot of my friends and coworkers this. Funny thing: all the Waygookins said use ondol, all the Koreans said a space heater is cheaper. It seems there's no agreeing.

However, I recall last year a unique situation I stumbled upon. I'm pretty warm blooded, so I don't need a lot of heat in winter. Remember, in these apartments, the walls aren't very well insulated. Plus, Koreans happen to be very thin skinned (literally) so they get cold much easier and run their head a lot in winter. If you are like me, and have Korean neighbors on your left, right, above you, and below you... the residual heat from their apartments is usually enough for your apartment.

The biggest problem I face is that clothes now take about 36 hours to fully dry. In summer, I run the AC non stop, clothes are dry in 12 hours flat. If you leave the floor on, they'll dry faster, but your apartment is going to get really warm and your elec/gas bill is going through the rough.

I have yet to find the best solution to this problem. I could find a space heater that blows hot air, but then that's going to run the elec bill up tons. I could turn the ondol on and just a fan to blow around the warm air, but I'm sure the two of those together might be just as bad as a single space heater.

Help? Question
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Nuggets



Joined: 23 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I know about the problem in the laundry drying department. If I have a huge load, I'll just use my washer/dryer. Yeah, it's a dryer too, found out on accident one day. Clothes came out nice and hot, but realllll stinky. For smaller loads, I'll just use my electric fan. I'm really probably going to look for a space heater cause I don't spend a terrible amount of time at home anyways.

People say the pipes for the ondol stay warm long afterward. This maybe true, but it still takes energy to get them that hot in the first place.

Oh, anyone know a good place to get fleece clothes?
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