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gay in korea



Joined: 13 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:33 pm    Post subject: E-2 step by step guide for Canadians Reply with quote

After discussing with a few people we were thinking it would good to have stickies or threads on this site for each country. I have some canadian friends bombarding me with questions, they try to search this site, but the search engine sucks, so they just ask me (and I ask my friends).

So let's start a sticky and I figure other people can start them for the other major suppliers of ESL teachers.

With that....

What is needed and how to go about it?
Canada is not a signatory of the apostile treaty, so how do canadians go about getting their alternative done?


Feel free to add/explain any and everything else.

cheers!
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: E-2 step by step guide for Canadians Reply with quote

gay in korea wrote:
After discussing with a few people we were thinking it would good to have stickies or threads on this site for each country. I have some canadian friends bombarding me with questions, they try to search this site, but the search engine sucks, so they just ask me (and I ask my friends).

So let's start a sticky and I figure other people can start them for the other major suppliers of ESL teachers.

With that....

What is needed and how to go about it?
Canada is not a signatory of the apostile treaty, so how do canadians go about getting their alternative done?


Feel free to add/explain any and everything else.

cheers!


IF you are IN Canada the process is fairly simple.

To certify your degree, take it , along with as many copies as you want certified to the local Korean consulate. They will want to see your original degree, sealed transcripts and passport. They will certifiy them for you. The cost is (or was) about $3 per copy.

The process is the same for certifying your RCMP/police record check.

Getting a CRC will vary slightly from city to city but for the most part: go to your local police station, they will print you (or do an electronic scan) and get your record check done. Take the copy they give you and get it certified. Get a couple extra done at the same time (usually a fraction of the cost of the first one).

If you are in Korea, you need to get it done long distance by the RCMP. The process takes about 4 months. When you get your copy, take it to the Canadian embassy here and swear an affidavit of authenticity.

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bobbybigfoot



Joined: 05 May 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: E-2 step by step guide for Canadians Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
gay in korea wrote:
After discussing with a few people we were thinking it would good to have stickies or threads on this site for each country. I have some canadian friends bombarding me with questions, they try to search this site, but the search engine sucks, so they just ask me (and I ask my friends).

So let's start a sticky and I figure other people can start them for the other major suppliers of ESL teachers.

With that....

What is needed and how to go about it?
Canada is not a signatory of the apostile treaty, so how do canadians go about getting their alternative done?


Feel free to add/explain any and everything else.

cheers!


IF you are IN Canada the process is fairly simple.

To certify your degree, take it , along with as many copies as you want certified to the local Korean consulate. They will want to see your original degree, sealed transcripts and passport. They will certifiy them for you. The cost is (or was) about $3 per copy.

The process is the same for certifying your RCMP/police record check.

Getting a CRC will vary slightly from city to city but for the most part: go to your local police station, they will print you (or do an electronic scan) and get your record check done. Take the copy they give you and get it certified. Get a couple extra done at the same time (usually a fraction of the cost of the first one).

If you are in Korea, you need to get it done long distance by the RCMP. The process takes about 4 months. When you get your copy, take it to the Canadian embassy here and swear an affidavit of authenticity.

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Hmmm...Another poster strongly suggested that local checks were okay because they automatically get run through the RCMP database.

Do you know something different Ttompatz?

My check is two years old, from the Ottawa police, clearly states it was run through the RCMP database. Fingerprints were NOT given though I'm not sure if the check states this or not. The Canadian Embassy notarized the check.

I'm assuming this check is still valid.

Edit: The check states:

This is to confirm that no criminal convictions, outstanding charges,
nor pardoned sex offenses have been found in the Canadian National
Repository of Criminal Records as a result of a search based on the
above name and date of birth. The search has not been confirmed
by fingerprints.


Second edit: This is from the RCMP website:

In accordance with the Criminal Records Act , applicants for paid or volunteer work with " vulnerable persons " must commence the process for obtaining a criminal records verification at a local police service and not at a privately operating fingerprinting firm.



I guess my only concern is whether or not FINGERPRINTS are now a necessity.
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ttompatz



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do I know? I know that K-immi has no idea about the differences in the checks and no idea how to interpret the nuances of the wording (most of them can't handle simple English most of the time).

If you are in Canada, then do what you want. It doesn't take long and is easy to fix if they don't like what you send.

If you are in Korea remember that you are dealing with an immigration officer that has NO CLUE about the differences or nuances of the CRCs you can get but they do know that the RCMP is the "National" police.

SO... if you are in Korea, Save yourself a world of grief and get the RCMP one so you don't end up with your renewal/transfer/change of employer nixed by some clerk at K-immi who has no clue. Remember that if they do refuse the one you offer it will take 4 months to get the RCMP check done from over here.

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Chet Wautlands



Joined: 11 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the great info.

Does anyone know how long a Canadian CRC is valid for? Would it be worth my time getting one now if I won't be using it for over a year?

Certified degrees... same question. Do they "expire"?
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gay in korea



Joined: 13 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

good start. Hopefully others will see it and post questions/answers.

Figured it would be good to have a link up re: CRC

And someone mentioned Ottawa, so: http://www.ottawapolice.ca/en/ServingOttawa/RecordsChecks/index.aspx
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poppy56



Joined: 04 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am fairly certain with the new E2 rule that we need RCMP CRC's now. Here a link to their website.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cr-cj/fing-empr2-eng.htm
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ttompatz



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chet Wautlands wrote:
Thanks for all the great info.

Does anyone know how long a Canadian CRC is valid for? Would it be worth my time getting one now if I won't be using it for over a year?

Certified degrees... same question. Do they "expire"?


Your CRC is considered to "expire" 6 months from the date of issue as indicated on the CRC.

Your K-embassy/consulate certified degree copies do NOT expire.

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gay in korea



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

poppy56 wrote:
I am fairly certain with the new E2 rule that we need RCMP CRC's now. Here a link to their website.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cr-cj/fing-empr2-eng.htm


we should get some confirmation on which one is required.
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hagwonnewbie



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do we still need sealed transcripts?
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ttompatz



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Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hagwonnewbie wrote:
Do we still need sealed transcripts?


The consulate may want a set of "university issued official transcripts" when they "certify" your degree copies.

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darkmarsh77



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had my CRC done at my local police station. I was specifically told by the police that a Record Check for Vulnerable Sector is not required. They even went as far as give me the contact info for their supervisor in case I have problems at the Korean Embassy.
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poppy56



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know but I was under the impresion that after January 1 the RCMP one will be required. I will be renewing in February and will go this week for my fingerprinting and send away for it. As a previous poster said I don't want to find out in February that I have the wrong one.
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mellow-d



Joined: 07 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:56 pm    Post subject: How to pay the fee for RCMP CRC.. Reply with quote

So I went to the KB bank today and asked for a money order for 25.00 CAD (the fee for getting your CRC) and the clerk was trying to get the beneficiary info like the RCMP's bank account number and stuff. I said that I couldn't find that information and I just needed something like a cheque and then she tried to offer me a traveller's cheque. so my question is, how do you go about getting a money order or certified cheque in Canadian dollars?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:00 pm    Post subject: Re: How to pay the fee for RCMP CRC.. Reply with quote

mellow-d wrote:
So I went to the KB bank today and asked for a money order for 25.00 CAD (the fee for getting your CRC) and the clerk was trying to get the beneficiary info like the RCMP's bank account number and stuff. I said that I couldn't find that information and I just needed something like a cheque and then she tried to offer me a traveller's cheque. so my question is, how do you go about getting a money order or certified cheque in Canadian dollars?


Go to a KEB bank instead of a KB* bank.
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