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sallymonster



Joined: 06 Feb 2010
Location: Seattle area

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:06 am    Post subject: I just came across this blog Reply with quote

I don't know if this has been posted on here before, but. . . wow.

http://ihateteachinginkorea.blogspot.com/

Bitter much?
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machoman



Joined: 11 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if u watch his videos, he sounds so annoyed and fed up. "stop talking in korean, stop talking in korean, stop talking in korean."

go in with a negative attitude, you get a negative experience.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In America, I would be considered a whistle blower for revealing gross misconduct. In Korea, I am considered a nonconformist. Only in Korea am I treated as a miscreant because I choose to speak out about injustice. I often felt the need to write about my experiences and what I saw occurring to me and others on a constant basis; it was my outlet when Korea provided no other way to cope.


Post title: "Korea Teaching = Prison"
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Kurtz



Joined: 05 Jan 2007
Location: ples bilong me

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I think he's just telling it like he sees it; and his experiences perhaps mirror what many many other NETS experience too. Korean co-teachers are invariably lazy, useless, and a complete waste of space. At least he's willing to show his face, and demonstrate the problems he faces.

Let's see you post some of your classes online, I'd love to see them.
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Wishmaster



Joined: 06 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that dude is definitely burned out...you can just tell. I can't say I blame him. But watching that video...man, am I glad I don't teach in a public school. I'll just keep slacking at my easy ass haggie job. Laughing
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
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In America, I would be considered a whistle blower for revealing gross misconduct. In Korea, I am considered a nonconformist. Only in Korea am I treated as a miscreant because I choose to speak out about injustice. I often felt the need to write about my experiences and what I saw occurring to me and others on a constant basis; it was my outlet when Korea provided no other way to cope.


Post title: "Korea Teaching = Prison"


Aside from hiking, praying, drinking, yoga, sports, exercise, knitting, reading, art, music, etc. there really is no other way to cope. Get a legitimate message and listen to some Jill Scott for goodness sakes. Drink some herbal tea. I love my meat and potatoes but sometimes the hippy-estro-types have a point on how to deal with stress.

I know I'm the worlds most strident apologist, but seriously there are FAR better ways to cope.

Get a clue, work sucks and your boss is going to be a moron. Welcome to life past the age of 25.

My co-teacher speaks in Korean and some people laughed at me...big deal...order a pizza and drink a beer and watch some Family Guy.
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northway



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
northway wrote:
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In America, I would be considered a whistle blower for revealing gross misconduct. In Korea, I am considered a nonconformist. Only in Korea am I treated as a miscreant because I choose to speak out about injustice. I often felt the need to write about my experiences and what I saw occurring to me and others on a constant basis; it was my outlet when Korea provided no other way to cope.


Post title: "Korea Teaching = Prison"


Aside from hiking, praying, drinking, yoga, sports, exercise, knitting, reading, art, music, etc. there really is no other way to cope. Get a legitimate message and listen to some Jill Scott for goodness sakes. Drink some herbal tea. I love my meat and potatoes but sometimes the hippy-estro-types have a point on how to deal with stress.

I know I'm the worlds most strident apologist, but seriously there are FAR better ways to cope.

Get a clue, work sucks and your boss is going to be a moron. Welcome to life past the age of 25.

My co-teacher speaks in Korean and some people laughed at me...big deal...order a pizza and drink a beer and watch some Family Guy.


Indeed.
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sulperman



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess when you are that down deep in a hole of despair it is difficult to see how your own negative attitude and inability to cope with the same kind of things that every other person on earth has to deal with are not just results of your situation, but also the cause.

I always wonder if people like this will gain a little self-awareness as they get older and realize that maybe they shouldn't have blamed Korea for all their problems, that there were things they could have done differently to be able to enjoy something that so many others enjoy. Not saying Korea is perfect, but no place is. And it is not for everybody. But if you can't get through one year here enjoying something different with your life, I am pretty sure the problem lies with you, not with an entire country.

Gotta take off that diaper, pull the pacifier out of your mouth and do something yourself to enjoy life. Work sucks for most everybody in the world, and probably 95% of the jobs in the world are worse than working as a foreigner in a PS or hagwon in Korea.

Stop feeling sorry for yourself, it is pathetic.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sulperman wrote:
I guess when you are that down deep in a hole of despair it is difficult to see how your own negative attitude and inability to cope with the same kind of things that every other person on earth has to deal with are not just results of your situation, but also the cause.

I always wonder if people like this will gain a little self-awareness as they get older and realize that maybe they shouldn't have blamed Korea for all their problems, that there were things they could have done differently to be able to enjoy something that so many others enjoy. Not saying Korea is perfect, but no place is. And it is not for everybody. But if you can't get through one year here enjoying something different with your life, I am pretty sure the problem lies with you, not with an entire country.

Gotta take off that diaper, pull the pacifier out of your mouth and do something yourself to enjoy life. Work sucks for most everybody in the world, and probably 95% of the jobs in the world are worse than working as a foreigner in a PS or hagwon in Korea.

Stop feeling sorry for yourself, it is pathetic.



Well said sir, well said.
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My two cents:
Plenty of things the blogger said were correct. We are disposable - and contracts here don't mean anything - unless it's to squeeze the NET.

However, we've all have the sit-in-the-back-of-the-classroom co-teacher. That's the way experienced GET's like it. This allows the GET to teach the lesson - (that they planned using communicative student-centred methodology). Most experienced GET's (and co-teachers) think the K co-teacher is best out of the way - used for translation - crowd control - and general classroom management.

What this guy didn't grasp, was that his co-teacher wasn't one of the dreaded "You're-an-assistant. You're-a-tape-recorder. Let-me-talk-in-Konglisheee- for-40-mins" co-teachers. They're the worst.

I thought he needed teacher training. Where did he call the class to order? Why was he talking when the kids were chattering? Why didn't he involve his co-teacher to call the kids to attention? Why was he walking around giving out handouts and speaking at the same time? Why didn't he drill the dialog? Where were the visuals to help contextualise the dialog?

That first video was a failed class (and that failure had little to do with the K co-teacher). I gave up watching after 4 mins.

Simply put, most of the problems in those classes were of his own making. That is, he didn't own the room.

Perhaps he should have sought guidance from Steve Shirtlifter. Stevie could've shown him how it's done.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's nothing wrong with pointing out the downsides and annoyances of being a NET in Korea........but allowing that much bitterness and resentment into your life is unhealthy.

Overall, I think most of us enjoy a pretty good life here. I know I do.

I don't bite the hand that feeds me........well, not in front of the hand anyway!! Laughing
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DeMayonnaise



Joined: 02 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldfatfarang wrote:
My two cents:
Plenty of things the blogger said were correct. We are disposable - and contracts here don't mean anything - unless it's to squeeze the NET.

However, we've all have the sit-in-the-back-of-the-classroom co-teacher. That's the way experienced GET's like it. This allows the GET to teach the lesson - (that they planned using communicative student-centred methodology). Most experienced GET's (and co-teachers) think the K co-teacher is best out of the way - used for translation - crowd control - and general classroom management.

What this guy didn't grasp, was that his co-teacher wasn't one of the dreaded "You're-an-assistant. You're-a-tape-recorder. Let-me-talk-in-Konglisheee- for-40-mins" co-teachers. They're the worst.

I thought he needed teacher training. Where did he call the class to order? Why was he talking when the kids were chattering? Why didn't he involve his co-teacher to call the kids to attention? Why was he walking around giving out handouts and speaking at the same time? Why didn't he drill the dialog? Where were the visuals to help contextualise the dialog?

That first video was a failed class (and that failure had little to do with the K co-teacher). I gave up watching after 4 mins.

Simply put, most of the problems in those classes were of his own making. That is, he didn't own the room.

Perhaps he should have sought guidance from Steve Shirtlifter. Stevie could've shown him how it's done.


Amen. I love the coteachers who sit in the back, mind their own business and let me go about the lesson. I hate it when the head English teacher here tries to take over my lesson, but in the process just makes it worse. This guy is just a loser.

2.2 mil, great benefits, super easy job, good vacation time, and generally treated well. What's there to complain about??
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balzor



Joined: 14 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a weiner that guy is. WHAAA, I have to teach. WHAAA I have to make materials and PPT. He sounds like a fresh out of college, born with a silver spoon up his ass, little punk. My co-teacher help me sometimes and don't sometimes. I don't rely on them. I am the teacher so I teach. If they want to help, Great. This chump needs a dose of reality.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He appears to be working in a multi-media lab despite this I see

No Powerpoints

No interesting video's.
He's just walking around with handouts. I think most students find this kind of lesson boring
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discostu333



Joined: 18 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy came across as being a bit of a mod-edit but his experiences exactly mirror my experiences at an all-boys middle school. Take the bitterness away, reading his descriptions of school life exactly mirror my experiences.

I chose to deal with it differently, I actually enjoy the way my co-teachers don't get involved in my lesson planning. The day-to-day crud I have to deal with I laugh off. I know I'm only going to be here for a year (10 weeks and counting). I do the best for the students who care and filter out the students who don't. I make the most of every weekend by going on trips, hikes, checking out cool nightspots in Seoul. I don't worry about the hell at school, its not forever.

But yeah, I know exactly where the guy is coming from.....
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