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Uni teachers are you E1 or E2?
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naturegirl321



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:47 pm    Post subject: Uni teachers are you E1 or E2? Reply with quote

So kimmi is changing immigration rules. . . again and the topic has come up again at my university about visas. We teach credit course, don't teach convo classes, but are E2s, and at one of the best unis in Korea (sigh). Catch 22 is that for us to get an E1, according to the admin, we'd have to quit, leave the country and get an E1. We've also been told that universities usually get English teachers E2s, somehow it's easier, maybe for them, but more paperwork for us.

So those of you who ARE at a uni and not on an F2 or F4, or F5, are you an E1 or an E2?

If you're an E1, how hard was it to get the visa? And do you know if there's anyway to stay at the same uni and change from an E2 to an E1?
Thanks
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mm



Joined: 01 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my understanding it is extremely difficult to get an E-1 visa unless you are teaching a non language course.
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naturegirl321



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mm wrote:
From my understanding it is extremely difficult to get an E-1 visa unless you are teaching a non language course.

So academic writing or presentation or culture don't count then? Darn. Geez, and I can't even marry a Korean. Guess I'll be stuck on an E2 forever.
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what's the big deal about getting an E1? Can you go through passport control quicker or something?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

edwardcatflap wrote:
So what's the big deal about getting an E1? Can you go through passport control quicker or something?


No, just a different set of grief when applying for your visa (as compared to an E2).

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naturegirl321



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's more prestigious. If you ever transfer universities, you'll see that some prefer E1s, F2s, and F5s. It also makes paperwork easier, no background checks. Basically, you get the recognisition that you deserve. YOu're not a hagwon teacher, you're a university professor. Just like our contracts say.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn shame.

Unfortunately to Koreans we are all just English teachers BUT if you were to teach a different subject taught in English (international law/mgmt, science, sociology, etc) would that work?
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I highly doubt it since that's what we currently do now Sad
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
I highly doubt it since that's what we currently do now Sad


I don't get it-

You aren't teaching English per se, but different subjects entirely. Maybe the admins are just lazy in filing your paperwork Crying or Very sad

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So academic writing or presentation or culture don't count then?


No, they could fall under the umbrella of English language learning- especially in the eyes of Koreans. Change the names to something else or make the topic of "presentation", and "culture" more specific. ex: marketing, history
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm, I guess if presentation, writing and culture don't count then we are out of luck. BUt my culture class is world culture, not English speaking culture. Sigh, I guess I'll always be an E2.
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my experience conversations usually go like this

What do you do?
I'm a teacher
What do you teach?
I teach English, culture, science, whatever
Where do you work?
I work at ..............university, hagwan etc...

Not

What do you do?
I'm a teacher
What visa are you on?

So the person you want to make it clear you're not just a boring old English teacher to will usually already know before the time when you might start talking about visas.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know. I understand. It's not for conversations and making friends and trying to impress them, it's for future job opps. those they say E1s are preferred. And for making my life easier by not having to get an FBI check every year Very Happy

Anyways, I can see that I'm fighting an uphill battle , so I'll just have to grin and bare it. thanks for all the feedback. I appreciate it.
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edwardcatflap



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I know. I understand. It's not for conversations and making friends and trying to impress them, it's for future job opps. those they say E1s are preferred. And for making my life easier by not having to get an FBI check every year


I don't get the FBI bit, unless you move jobs every year. I've worked at the same place for several years on an E2, I think, and only had to have one when I first started.
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offtheoche



Joined: 21 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

E1.
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liveinkorea316



Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edwardcatflap the FBI requirement came in this year. There are no exceptions. I am surprised you dont know.
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