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| What percentage of hagwons are actually good? |
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21% |
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| 30% |
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24% |
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21% |
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12% |
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6% |
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9% |
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| 1% (Likely) |
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6% |
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phaedrus
Joined: 13 Nov 2003
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 Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:03 pm Post subject: Bad Hagwons |
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There are some good hagwons out there, and I am always reminded about them whenever I make a statement criticizing ALL hagwons.
But, what percentage of hagwons are actually good?
I mean: ripping teachers off, in it for the money, tax fraud, no insurance, dirty apartments, poor curriculum, no clue, etc.
I think most are not good. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Look at it this way....
The most vocal people are the people who are treated badly. if you are treated well then you don't complain.
I think the majority of people are treated fairly. However there is admitely a large minority that isn't. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 3:31 am Post subject: |
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Phaedrus,
Nice "fair" poll that will not of course "guide" the results... 
the highest you give is 40% and then it jumps to 100% with an added (yeah right)....nice...this is a truly well constructed poll that will only confirm your opinion of things.
How about giving options that would better reflect the reality of things, or at least have the ability to do so?  |
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Kristsoy
Joined: 23 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 3:54 am Post subject: excellent |
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| if you are treated well then you don't complain |
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this is the greatest thing anyone has ever said on this form in the 5 years ive been coming here. |
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sadsac
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang
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| Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:16 am Post subject: |
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I would have to agree with Homer, the poll does not give a fair representation, 40% then 100%. Even 10% increments would have been fairer.  |
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phaedrus
Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: I'm comin' to get ya.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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| CURRENT POLL RESULTS wrote: |
What percentage of hagwons are actually good?
100% (Yeah Right ) 0% [ 0 ]
40% 25% [ 4 ]
30% 12% [ 2 ]
20% 31% [ 5 ]
10% 12% [ 2 ]
5% 0% [ 0 ]
3% 12% [ 2 ]
1% (Likely) 6% [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 16
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Let's see, 75% are 30 or under? Fair or not?
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| just because wrote: |
| if you are treated well then you don't complain |
this is the greatest thing anyone has ever said on this form in the 5 years ive been coming here. |
I agree, if teachers were treated fairly in Korea nobody would complain, however, the great percentage of people I talk to have some sort of beef. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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The only teachers I ever met who didn't complain were NOT hagwan teachers, they were university teachers. Not to say there aren't some bad universities out there too. But I have yet to meet a hagwan teacher who has no complaints. 
They are all bad, to some extent, way, shape or form. Some are just less bad.
I'm sure someone will get on here now and say ,
"well I have no complaints and I work in a hagwan".
Good on you.
I still haven't met you. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 1:21 am Post subject: |
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Phaedrus,
Sometimes you have to consider the person doing the complaining and think about that before simply assuming that its the schools fault.
Don't get me wrong some schools do suck. However, some teachers here are just whiners (read some..not all). |
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 1:25 am Post subject: |
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It is puzzling when someone posts a poll to solicit members opinions, but absurdly restrict the voting options.
If you don't want to hear the answer, why ask the question? |
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phaedrus
Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: I'm comin' to get ya.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 1:29 am Post subject: |
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| Homer wrote: |
Phaedrus,
Sometimes you have to consider the person doing the complaining and think about that before simply assuming that its the schools fault.
Don't get me wrong some schools do suck. However, some teachers here are just whiners (read some..not all). |
That's a good point. Some people are whiners. I also agree that hagwons probably aren't that bad.
However, I felt my hagwon was pretty good near the start, yet they still made severance into an issue, played constant mind games, wouldn't think of giving an extra day off etc. My final judgement is that they are idiots.
I usually expect the best, but by the end I was expecting the worst for everything, and not let down. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 3:12 am Post subject: |
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| Too bad about your experience with your hakwon phaedrus. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 3:30 am Post subject: |
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| Kristoy wrote: |
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if you are treated well then you don't complain
this is the greatest thing anyone has ever said on this form in the 5 years ive been coming here. |
Why thank you but it is true. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 3:31 am Post subject: |
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Phaedrus-By "Good", do you mean wonderful in every department? - none live up to this. Some are better than others..but they all let you down on one or two things. Some let you down on a lot more.
I suppose about a third of them are reasonably Ok. |
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phaedrus
Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: I'm comin' to get ya.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 3:05 am Post subject: |
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| rapier wrote: |
Phaedrus-By "Good", do you mean wonderful in every department? - none live up to this. Some are better than others..but they all let you down on one or two things. Some let you down on a lot more.
I suppose about a third of them are reasonably Ok. |
I guess I mean reasonably okay. I want to mean so nice you could work there for the better part of your career. Now I'm not sure.
I just know my old hagwon was a festival of stupidity. |
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cdnguy
Joined: 07 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:33 am Post subject: |
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| On the subject of complaints......EVERYONE complains. In every country in every occupation almost everyone has a beef with their situation or their boss. This is the nature of the phenomenon known as "work." |
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