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wormholes101
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 Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:22 pm Post subject: Build New Dual Core for under 230,000 won? |
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I was reading this article by PC Mag in which they build a Dual Core for under US$200. That translates to just under 230,000 won. Is this possiblle in Korea??
I'm would like to have a go at building a computer (my first time) and obviously, would like something cheap yet worth building.
I came up with:
Motherboard: ASUS N68-S (55,000won)
CPU: AMD Athlon 2 X2 (79,000)
RAM: 2GB DDR3 (43,000)
HDD: 160GB Seagate 7200 (48,000)
PSU: 450w (18,000)
Case: 18,000
Grand Total: 261,000
Any experienced builders here care to try and help me get this down a few thousand won? I would really like to keep minimum 2GB ram since I would put Windows 7 on the machine. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Apart from the limitations of the hard drive, I'd say that's a serviceable computer. Fine for basic needs.
Making it cheaper!! That's a challenge!! Maybe you could find a cheaper mobo from someone like Biostar which could support that CPU.
I agree that the bottom line for RAM for W7 is 2GB.......I've tried it on 1GB and it was too slow. Although I heard Some tech-geeks out there got W7 up and running on 6MB of RAM!!! Just for an experiment.
It's a great time for computer builders. I watched a documentary recently about the BBS scene in the States in the 70's and 80's and was amazed that those guys back then were paying $3000 for incredibly basic computers.
As you've proved, it can be done for $200 now.
As a power user I typically spend about $1200 when I build a computer......but for that I get the ability to play any current game at max settings at 1920x1080.......and 2TB of hard drive space.
BTW, my current AMD rig is doing an amazing job. I've got it crunching 3 BOINC projects on all 6 cores while I sleep and while I'm at work......so it's running at 100% about 18 hours per day........that's 100% CPU and 100% GPU! Yes, the HD5850 is crunching the Milkyway project at 100% usage 18 hours per day!!
Needless to say my computer room doesn't need a heater!! |
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Gideon
Joined: 24 Feb 2004
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
Apart from the limitations of the hard drive, I'd say that's a serviceable computer. Fine for basic needs.
Making it cheaper!! That's a challenge!! Maybe you could find a cheaper mobo from someone like Biostar which could support that CPU.
I agree that the bottom line for RAM for W7 is 2GB.......I've tried it on 1GB and it was too slow. Although I heard Some tech-geeks out there got W7 up and running on 6MB of RAM!!! Just for an experiment.
It's a great time for computer builders. I watched a documentary recently about the BBS scene in the States in the 70's and 80's and was amazed that those guys back then were paying $3000 for incredibly basic computers.
As you've proved, it can be done for $200 now.
As a power user I typically spend about $1200 when I build a computer......but for that I get the ability to play any current game at max settings at 1920x1080.......and 2TB of hard drive space.
BTW, my current AMD rig is doing an amazing job. I've got it crunching 3 BOINC projects on all 6 cores while I sleep and while I'm at work......so it's running at 100% about 18 hours per day........that's 100% CPU and 100% GPU! Yes, the HD5850 is crunching the Milkyway project at 100% usage 18 hours per day!!
Needless to say my computer room doesn't need a heater!! |
Ahh yes.. the good ol BBS days. When a 1200 baud modem was considered fast and then the 9600 came out and it felt like high speed internet.. lol
I used to BBS on my C-64 and Amiga-500 downloading games from friends around the world. Mostly USA though.. i remember I had to use the money earned from my paper route to pay for the long distance phone calls. now those were the days!!
Do you know the name of the doucmentary. would love to see it!!! |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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It's called BBS: The Documentary and can be downloaded easily from Demonoid or other major torrent sites.
Here's the wiki page..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBS:_The_Documentary
It's also on Youtube if you want to watch right away.
It's actually very good.......and that's the opinion of someone who never even did BBS....being a bit too young and growing up in Ireland!
But I did get the feeling from listening to the people on the documentary that there was a real excitement to computing in those days.......I guess it was such a novelty to communicate with people on computers. But I don't think they have good memories of the the $500 phone bills!! |
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wormholes101
Joined: 11 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
Apart from the limitations of the hard drive, I'd say that's a serviceable computer. Fine for basic needs.
Making it cheaper!! That's a challenge!! Maybe you could find a cheaper mobo from someone like Biostar which could support that CPU.
I agree that the bottom line for RAM for W7 is 2GB.......I've tried it on 1GB and it was too slow. Although I heard Some tech-geeks out there got W7 up and running on 6MB of RAM!!! Just for an experiment. |
thx for the feed back. i'm looking into a cheaper motherboard. btw, is the motherboard that I have listed there compatible with ddr3? |
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eamo
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wormholes101
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thx -
after browsing gmarket for ddr2 and ddr3, it seems that ddr3 isn't really more expensive than ddr2??? is that strange or am i missing something? |
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eamo
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| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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thx -
after browsing gmarket for ddr2 and ddr3, it seems that ddr3 isn't really more expensive than ddr2??? is that strange or am i missing something? |
Not unusual in the world of computing. DDR3 was expensive when not a lot of it was being made. Now it's being made in large quantities.......but it still costs about the same to manufacture DDR2 as it does to make DDR3. The manufacturing process is essentially the same..........so you get similar prices. |
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Kheldar
Joined: 26 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Gideon wrote: |
| eamo wrote: |
Apart from the limitations of the hard drive, I'd say that's a serviceable computer. Fine for basic needs.
Making it cheaper!! That's a challenge!! Maybe you could find a cheaper mobo from someone like Biostar which could support that CPU.
I agree that the bottom line for RAM for W7 is 2GB.......I've tried it on 1GB and it was too slow. Although I heard Some tech-geeks out there got W7 up and running on 6MB of RAM!!! Just for an experiment.
It's a great time for computer builders. I watched a documentary recently about the BBS scene in the States in the 70's and 80's and was amazed that those guys back then were paying $3000 for incredibly basic computers.
As you've proved, it can be done for $200 now.
As a power user I typically spend about $1200 when I build a computer......but for that I get the ability to play any current game at max settings at 1920x1080.......and 2TB of hard drive space.
BTW, my current AMD rig is doing an amazing job. I've got it crunching 3 BOINC projects on all 6 cores while I sleep and while I'm at work......so it's running at 100% about 18 hours per day........that's 100% CPU and 100% GPU! Yes, the HD5850 is crunching the Milkyway project at 100% usage 18 hours per day!!
Needless to say my computer room doesn't need a heater!! |
Ahh yes.. the good ol BBS days. When a 1200 baud modem was considered fast and then the 9600 came out and it felt like high speed internet.. lol
I used to BBS on my C-64 and Amiga-500 downloading games from friends around the world. Mostly USA though.. i remember I had to use the money earned from my paper route to pay for the long distance phone calls. now those were the days!!
Do you know the name of the doucmentary. would love to see it!!! |
I had a C-64 too and bought a 300 baud "Automodem" in 1983. I think it was around $150 just for the modem but was considered revolutionary with auto-answer and auto-dial, as in auto-rotary dial. I actually ran a BBS for awhile on my parents home line because I couldn't afford my own line (I was 12). But that didn't work out because they got tired of answering the phone to a "EEEEEEEEE" sound.
For a real kick, watch Wargames. Matthew Broderick had an acoustic modem (150 baud, maybe?) where you actually had to connect the telephone receiver on top of the modem so it could "listen" to the connection through the phone. |
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crossmr
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Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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| I also ran a BB for a bit. When I was in elementary and my father was doing some teacher training we had moved to a somewhat remote school. They had one of those acoustic modems there which had to use from time to time. |
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dazzed
Joined: 26 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:04 am Post subject: |
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| You could get a used mobo/cpu set at yongsan for 100k. Just last year I got asus board and intel duo core 6750 for 130k. It should have gone down a bit by now. |
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spanky1off
Joined: 21 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:33 am Post subject: Re: Build New Dual Core for under 230,000 won? |
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| wormholes101 wrote: |
Motherboard: ASUS N68-S (55,000won)
CPU: AMD Athlon 2 X2 (79,000)
RAM: 2GB DDR3 (43,000)
HDD: 160GB Seagate 7200 (48,000)
PSU: 450w (18,000)
Case: 18,000
Grand Total: 261,000
Any experienced builders here care to try and help me get this down a few thousand won?. |
to shave off some savings my suggestion is use danawa and order from cheapest suppliers. but u will definately need the korean to help you do this. this will save as follows
CPU Athlon 2 x2 [email protected] (63k) (saving 16k)
RAM DDR3 2gb (36k) (saving 7k)
HDD WD Caviar Blue 500gb (43.5k) (no saving but much bigger!)
that deal the guy mentioned on 2nd hand cpu/mobo deals sounds worth checking out. just dont buy new in yongsan..theyre a bunch of c&^%s |
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excaza
Joined: 27 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:05 am Post subject: |
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I believe this was pointed out already, but he can't use DDR3 with that mobo.
It shouldn't really have an effect on the price, but it is something to make sure you remember when doing the final order :p
Also, the page for the case is taking 80 million years to load for me, but be sure to make sure it's compatible with micro-atx boards (micro-atx does tend to get cramped, but since you're using an integrated GPU you're not really going to notice), or you're going to have to drill your own mounting holes.
Hardware-wise, this build should be able to handle basic tasks swimmingly. You're not going to get much worthwhile gaming out of it, though it should handle HD video pretty well. |
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