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Need evidence to bring to Pension support no pay claim...

 
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crowman



Joined: 24 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:11 am    Post subject: Need evidence to bring to Pension support no pay claim... Reply with quote

My hagwon owner is, and has been, trying to get away without paying into my pension. On the NPS website, they state that they need evidence to process claims and I am curious whether or not I can legally record (be known or unbeknown) a conversation with him to use as evidence to support my claim. I am unsure of what other irrefutable evidence I can show NPS to support my claim.

If it is of any help, I registered for and claimed pension last year under a different hagwon.

Wasn't sure if where to post this question, but thanks for any help.
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thegadfly



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure about the recording of a conversation, but aren't paystubs or a bankbook showing payments made from your employer to you sufficient evidence that you have been paid a salary? The dates for the payments should coincide with pension payments, and if they do not, then that is proof of non-payment...isn't it?

My bankbook specifically lists my salary payment deposits as payroll deposits from my employer (or rather, that is what I was told that the little notation in Korean meant)....
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OculisOrbis



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

a copy of your contract will help
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thegadfly wrote:
Not sure about the recording of a conversation, but aren't paystubs or a bankbook showing payments made from your employer to you sufficient evidence that you have been paid a salary? The dates for the payments should coincide with pension payments, and if they do not, then that is proof of non-payment...isn't it?

My bankbook specifically lists my salary payment deposits as payroll deposits from my employer (or rather, that is what I was told that the little notation in Korean meant)....


Copy of your contract clearly stating that you are the "employee" (entitlement)

Proof of wages (pay stubs or bank book with direct deposits from the employer) to determine decuctions/contributions.

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crowman



Joined: 24 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the help everyone
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hijack the thread but I have a related question. It's not for me but I was discussing it with someone earlier and neither of us knew the answer.

What can you do if your employer tells you that they are deducting money from your salary and paying it to the pension office, BUT in reality they are just pocketing it AND they aren't contributing their part. What happens a year later when you find out that no pension payments have been made for that year you worked for the hogwan? How can you not only force the hogwan owner to pay his part but also prove that he deducted something from your salary which should have been paid as your part of the pension?
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Troglodyte wrote:
Sorry to hijack the thread but I have a related question. It's not for me but I was discussing it with someone earlier and neither of us knew the answer.

What can you do if your employer tells you that they are deducting money from your salary and paying it to the pension office, BUT in reality they are just pocketing it AND they aren't contributing their part. What happens a year later when you find out that no pension payments have been made for that year you worked for the hogwan? How can you not only force the hogwan owner to pay his part but also prove that he deducted something from your salary which should have been paid as your part of the pension?


You need the contract (signed by both parties) and the bankbook/pay slips. In other words a paper trail that the pension office can follow.

If on the other hand you have nothing...then you can do nothing.
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