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NYC_Gal

Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:34 pm Post subject: Who else keeps a... |
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cheat sheet of students' names?
I replace it every couple of weeks as I memorize more and more of them. It's really only the special kids that participate or come to visit me that get on the list, but it makes a difference. I still give funny nicknames to the kids that haven't made it yet (Soondae boy, Goat boy [he was chewing his sweater], Frankenstein, etc), but the kids love that I know them by name. It's hard, as I've got hundreds of students, but I try.
Recently I've had one teeny 4th grade boy come by every day with a small snack for me. I picked up a bunch of cute pencils, erasers, and stickers, and whenever he comes by, I give him one as a thank you. His name is 경훈. |
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tanklor1
Joined: 13 Jun 2006
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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When I was working at a hogwan I had a really rough class of high level students that no other teacher wanted. Me being the loud one in the office bragged about how I only had one class on Fridays. (Learned a lesson right there) They gave me the toughest class of the school. I sat down with all of their names and devised a seating chart. Once I "introduced" myself I showed that that I knew exactly who they were and I had all of their parents phone numbers. Then I quietly mentioned that since that was an extremely high level I was willing to bet that their parents spoke pretty damn good English.
After that never had a problem and the class turned out to be one of the most fun. |
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toonchoon

Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Location: Gangnam
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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how about a seating chart? when I used to teach kids Ii thought about a seating chart, after separating the "troublemakers" of course, but I never did it. |
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NYC_Gal

Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Too many kids for seating charts, and my coteachers are always rearranging the way the kids sit. I'd rather focus on the favorites. |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008 Location: Marakesh
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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NYC_Gal wrote: |
Too many kids for seating charts, and my coteachers are always rearranging the way the kids sit. I'd rather focus on the favorites. |
That's classy.
I got a lecture from my coworker the other day about how I don't know the students names, but the last teacher here did. I had to point out that I've only been working at this school since September, where we had two weeks of for Chuseok and midterms, and then a school festival, and then a day off for me to go to immigration, etc... so some classes, I've only seen twice. Plus, the old teacher gave them all English names (Juan is an English name? )
Anyway, I know all the bad students names by heart, most of the good students I've got down, and I'm slowly working on the rest. I took the role book and copied the photos, cut them out and put them into my seating chart. So I guess it's a cheat sheet.
I don't call them anything other than their real names. Last year, one of my kids was pretty big and all the kids called him "Big Show" (John Cena, the wrestler) and he laughed, so that was his nickname. A few weeks later, he came up to me and told me that he didn't like that, but he didn't want to argue with the class, but if I could stop calling him that, he'd like it. I've had others like that too, a nickname they laugh at, but really they don't like. Just easier to avoid the whole mess and go with proper names. |
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kimdeal54
Joined: 28 Feb 2008
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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I have about 800 students, and it's taken me the better part of a year to learn about half of their names. The rest I read off the seating plan at the front of each class.
I'll spend about a week learning all the 'Min's (Min-jeong, Min-yeong, Min-ji, Min-ju, Min-su etc.), then move onto the 'Hyeon's for example. I have no particular focus on 'good' or 'bad' students, but I make a bit more of an effort to learn the quieter students' names... it helps to engage them. |
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ThingsComeAround

Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Its def. a challenge to remember all the kid's names, unless they are unique in some way. I've got a seating chart (perk of having my own classroom) but haven't secured the pictures of students That's on the list for next year. |
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nomad-ish

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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i'll be honest; there's absolutely no way that i'll ever remember all my kids' names or even half for that matter. i teach over 500 students so it's just not going to happen. the good kids, the bad kids, i don't usually remember their names either. i remember the kids who attend extra english classes or camps, or just go out of their way to talk to me.
how do i call on them in class, you ask? by student number.  |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008 Location: Marakesh
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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NYC Gal, I had over 1000 students at my last school, and I currently have about 600, so don't try pulling that crap on me. I think only learning the names of your "favorite" students is crap. It alienates the other students, it shows the bad students that yes, in fact, you DON'T care about them. So yeah, you're a classy lady.  |
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NYC_Gal

Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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I know a LOT of my students' names. I used the term favorites in the broader sense. If you'd read the list, you'd have realized that. Out of each class, at this point in time, I know 5 or 6 kids' names. That's over 120 students. Like I said: My mom teaches 200 kids with ENGLISH names and she can only remember about 2/3. This is the case with most teachers. There's a limit. If a student doesn't shine, you help them. I don't neglect them in the least, but it just isn't possible for me to learn all of their names, especially with so many that are far more engaging both in and out of the classroom.
Of course I'm going to add the more interested kids first. Should I ignore them? I give all students my time and attention, but those who stand out have their names learned more quickly than others.
And yes, I am. <<bats lashes>> |
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kimdeal54
Joined: 28 Feb 2008
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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nathanrutledge wrote: |
I think only learning the names of your "favorite" students is crap. It alienates the other students, it shows the bad students that yes, in fact, you DON'T care about them. |
This. I completely agree.
Children and teenagers are perceptive. They can tell if a teacher doesn't like them, and if they get that impression, can you blame them for not giving a toss about a class? |
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wiganer
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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nathanrutledge wrote: |
NYC Gal, I had over 1000 students at my last school, and I currently have about 600, so don't try pulling that crap on me. I think only learning the names of your "favorite" students is crap. It alienates the other students, it shows the bad students that yes, in fact, you DON'T care about them. So yeah, you're a classy lady.  |
So you are trying to tell us that you remembered the names of up to a 1000 kids you taught at anyone time? My arse you did!
Some of the complete and utter crap people try and fob us off with on here... You wouldn't think we were all doing the same job on here.  |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008 Location: Marakesh
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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wiganer wrote: |
nathanrutledge wrote: |
NYC Gal, I had over 1000 students at my last school, and I currently have about 600, so don't try pulling that crap on me. I think only learning the names of your "favorite" students is crap. It alienates the other students, it shows the bad students that yes, in fact, you DON'T care about them. So yeah, you're a classy lady.  |
So you are trying to tell us that you remembered the names of up to a 1000 kids you taught at anyone time? My arse you did!
Some of the complete and utter crap people try and fob us off with on here... You wouldn't think we were all doing the same job on here.  |
Yeah, I did. I was at the school for two years, I had a list of all the students WITH photos, and I studied the list before every class for the first few months and used their names ALL the time in class. My first year at the school, we were a new school and only had 400 students, so it was pretty easy then and the second year, I only had 600 more to learn.
Just because you can't/don't/won't learn their names doesn't mean the rest of us are in that same camp. |
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NYC_Gal

Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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kimdeal54 wrote: |
nathanrutledge wrote: |
I think only learning the names of your "favorite" students is crap. It alienates the other students, it shows the bad students that yes, in fact, you DON'T care about them. |
This. I completely agree.
Children and teenagers are perceptive. They can tell if a teacher doesn't like them, and if they get that impression, can you blame them for not giving a toss about a class? |
I adore 99% of my students. It just isn't possible to learn all of their names. My kids know that I adore them. I don't dislike any of them (except three 6th grade girls, and I definitely know their names!).
As I said: I'm trying to learn as many names as possible, but after a hundred, it gets tough. It's even tougher with a rotating schedule. If you can remember 750 kids' names, good on you. |
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NYC_Gal

Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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nathanrutledge wrote: |
Yeah, I did. I was at the school for two years, I had a list of all the students WITH photos, and I studied the list before every class for the first few months and used their names ALL the time in class. My first year at the school, we were a new school and only had 400 students, so it was pretty easy then and the second year, I only had 600 more to learn.
Just because you can't/don't/won't learn their names doesn't mean the rest of us are in that same camp. |
I don't have a list with photos. You were fortunate to get that. I don't have seating charts because the seats are always changing. My schedule's always changing without prior notice. The fact that I remember over 100 names is pretty good, and I said: I add new names every few weeks as I learn them.
I still call BS. My mom's an award-winning teacher, and she still can't remember more than 150 or so names in ENGLISH. |
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