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[s10czar]

ref below: my question is- what if your child support goes into arrears while you're overseas but your passport is currently valid with many years of eligabilty left? Can they deport you? Thanks

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Section 51.70 (a) ( of Title 22 of the Code of Federal Regulations states, in part, that if you are certified to Passport Services by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to be in arrears of child support payments in excess of $2,500, you are ineligible to receive a U.S. passport . If this applies to you, Passport Services strongly recommends that you contact the appropriate State child support enforcement agency to make payment arrangements before applying for a passport. This is because:

The State agency must certify to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) that acceptable payment arrangements have been made.
Then, HHS must notify Passport Services by the removal of your name from the electronic list HHS gives to Passport Services. (Passport Services cannot issue a passport until your name has been deleted by HHS.)

[Troglodyte]

Why not have people post replies here in the thread? Maybe someone else in the future will have a similar question.

[thegadfly]

You can get traveler's cheques and use those to pay your child support to the agency or person to whom you owe it, if you are unable to do wire transfers. Write all pertinent information in the memo section of the cheque, and mail it to whomever you need -- if it disappears, you can report it lost (lost, NOT lost in the mail) and get a new one issued.

[s10czar]

all replies welcome, either PM or public

As for travelers checks...ummm...the gist of my post is not how to pay but what happens in the event you don't pay. Please reserve judgement as there's a backstory here I chose not to get into.

thanks

[thegadfly]

...then the title of the thread is a bit misleading -- you are looking for folks with experience NOT paying child support -- can't help ya there.

[tardisrider]

I'll say this: don't let child support payments get in arrears. If there's a legitimate back story or there are legitimate reasons to have the child support payments stopped or changed, then go through a court and have the issue addressed there.

Simply not paying, no matter what the reason, is going to get you in trouble. I'm not even going into the moral responsibility angle of things: from a legal standpoint, you need to get it straightened out. I don't know if you'll get extradited back to your home country, but even if you don't, by simply not paying you are setting yourself up for bigger troubles down the road.

[Carla]

Depends on where you are from. The next time you get a CBC done you might find a warrent out for your arrest. Kinda blows the next job away.

[nathanrutledge]

It would also depend on the person to whom you are paying support. Case in point, I know of two people, both employees at my fathers company, both of whom had not paid child support (reasons which I don't know, don't care, doesn't matter). One of them was at work and the US Marshall's Service sent a deputy to serve him with notice that he was in some trouble. This was not the first, nor the last time that this happened to the fellow.

The other one worked many years and we never had a problem/visit from any authority of any kind.

One of the baby's mamas was proactive and the other wasn't. I.E. If you DON'T pay it and she wants it, you're going to get caught. If she just writes you off as a bum and lets it go, doesn't go to court, it's another story.

That being said, like the other posters said, take care of it one way or another.

[toniyellow]

What if your passport is lost or stolen when you're over here and you're ineligible to receive a replacement? Thats a good way to get suddenly deported.

Unless the backstory is that the kid isn't biologically yours, isn't it weird that you're over here teaching other children whilst your own kid is dumped with a mother you don't think will even spend the money right?

Not only will it likely come back to haunt your criminal background checks, your ability to keep on the good side of the IRS or just live in the US again without being harassed by baliffs, it sounds like a good way to give your kid daddy issues.

[s10czar]

Those are some great points about pulling a runner that guys back in the states might not think about- especially the CBC and replacement of a lost/stolen passport. Thanks

My reason for posting (one of them) was to get some info out for guys in my situation that (like me) are considering drastic measures.

Never coming back to the states isn't much of a threat to me personally but would be a biggie for others I know.

I'll add some color, so people can try to understand what we go through...

She walked with the kid when he was 1 week old. Two weeks later she sued me for child support. She "works" from home for the UC system and makes considerably more money than I do. And since she lives with mommy and daddy, she has no living expenses.

Daddy (hers) is a retired chief of police currently enjoying a multi-million dollar retirement package- our tax dollars at work! He's paying all her legal expenses and his pockets are like a bottomless pit.

You're right- don't pay and the wrath of God is upon you. Law enforcement goons of every description desend upon you. But she can basically do whatever she wants. All she has to say is the child is sick...or the air quality is bad and he can't leave the house...or my car is unsafe...or I don't have the right child seat...or- you get the picture.

Even so, I was willing to play along. Then one day she told me she would raise my son to hate me. Point blank. Just like that. She would raise my son to hate me.

After a little "time out" time in a psych-ward I started investigating ESL. More to get away from the pain then to get out of the payments.

So if you've read this far, hopefully you can relate somewhat and not be too judgemental.

If you're still with me on this thread, let's change the gist to specifics...

I'm over 40, college degree, and (soon) will have my CELTA. I have an extensive military background and am gainfully emplyed in a corporate job. I need to cover child support of $650/month and still have a life. I've lived in Korea before (military) and actually like it there.

Thoughts? .....

[tardisrider]

[Sector7G]

[Carla]

IF you are just being a dead beat dad, then you have no excuses. Just because your child doesn't NEED your money doesn't mean he doesn't deserve it.

Now, if your ex is just one of the crazy people, the the answer is simple. Take the money and put it in a bank account. All of the money due every month. That's is your son's money. There's two main reasons.

1) If you ever do come across trouble because of the child support, then you have it to pay.

2) If you don't return to the States, then you have a lump sum of money to pay for education/car/etc. when your son is old enough.

And remember, even if your ex doesn't pursue charges for non-payment, the government can.

[nikki15]

This is a really hard situation, and I can see how difficult it is for you. BUT nevertheless, he is your son and you do need to pay child support, it doesn't matter how much money his grandparents or mother has. Especially his grandparents. It's not their child and they are under no responsibilty to take care of him financially. You have a responsibility to this child. If you want to ever be a part of this child�s life you have to do what it takes now and all through out his life to take care of him.

My own biological father ran from job to job trying to get away from paying child support, and for that, among other reasons, I have not spoken to him in years.

No matter what his mother says or does, he will realize the truth as he gets older. Now, I suppose it's your decision to play into what she says about you or actually man up and take responsibility for your child and do what is not only a legal obligation, but also just plain morally right.

[Stan Rogers]

Korean Immigration does not deport people for being behind on their child support payments in another country.

However, they do deport people for being in Korea without a valid passport.