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vassalage
Joined: 12 Jun 2006
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 Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:26 am Post subject: breaking your contract |
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I have been working my ass off and been treated like garbage and recently been dragged into "meetings" that are filmed on CCTV where I get attacked (not physically) by the boss for doing what I was told. I seriously am tired of it. I have my own apartment and am not worried about that part.
This all started after I asked for my vacation days that are owed to me (10). I don't know what to do anymore. They have implemented a new penalty scheme where if I do anything wrong (including but not limited to: not covering the assigned pages in class which I and the other foreign teacher have informed him is impossible) I will receive a penalty of extra work hours and the third time I will be fired. I know they are trying to get rid of me so they don't have to hire someone for my holidays and so they don't have to pay my severance and air flight.
I have a months work owing to me but can't seem to make myself go into work on Monday. I am seriously on the brink of a nervous breakdown. I have already decided to leave before my contract and mostly likely before I am due pay.
My only questions is if I don't come to work what can they do? I don't care about the money anymore I just care about my sanity.
I would like to leave around November 15 which is when my apartment is paid up until.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:56 am Post subject: Re: breaking your contract |
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| vassalage wrote: |
I have been working my ass off and been treated like garbage and recently been dragged into "meetings" that are filmed on CCTV where I get attacked (not physically) by the boss for doing what I was told. I seriously am tired of it. I have my own apartment and am not worried about that part.
This all started after I asked for my vacation days that are owed to me (10). I don't know what to do anymore. They have implemented a new penalty scheme where if I do anything wrong (including but not limited to: not covering the assigned pages in class which I and the other foreign teacher have informed him is impossible) I will receive a penalty of extra work hours and the third time I will be fired. I know they are trying to get rid of me so they don't have to hire someone for my holidays and so they don't have to pay my severance and air flight.
I have a months work owing to me but can't seem to make myself go into work on Monday. I am seriously on the brink of a nervous breakdown. I have already decided to leave before my contract and mostly likely before I am due pay.
My only questions is if I don't come to work what can they do? I don't care about the money anymore I just care about my sanity.
I would like to leave around November 15 which is when my apartment is paid up until.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
My only questions is if I don't come to work what can they do?
1st, they can fire you.
If you have decided to quit then what they can realistically do (other than be annoying by calling your phone or banging on your door) depends on your visa class.
If you are "F" class of visa there is NOTHING they can do other than piss and moan into the wind, make idle threats and hope you don't go to the labor board for unpaid wages.
If you are E2 then they can cancel your visa forcing you to either go to immigration and get a 30-day extension (ticket out required) or leave Korea within 14 days to avoid the overstay. You also still have the option of going to the labor board for unpaid wages if you want to pee in their cornflakes and plan to stick around Korea for a while.
If you are on a "B" class stamp then there is nothing they can do other than cry all the way to the bank and you have NO options for recovering lost wages.
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vassalage
Joined: 12 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:43 am Post subject: |
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I am on an E2 visa.
I called Mr Jung from the "how to hammer your boss into submission" thread and he told me if I don't go in that they will think I've "run away" and I won't be able to do anything at the labor board.
Don't really care but the more I think about it the angrier I get.....
I called immigration and told them I wanted the 30 day visa extension and I was quitting my job. They told me it was no problem and to just come in with my boss to release me from my visa:P
They didn't quite get the point.
Anyway, if I just don't go in on Monday or call or anything....can he go in the same day and cancel my visa? If he does how do I know he did this?
If he does am I still eligible for the 30 day extension?
I don't care about coming back to Korea and being blacklisted. I am worried that he will do something to stop me from leaving the country. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:03 am Post subject: |
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Your employer cannot do anything to stop you from leaving the country except perhaps file charges if you owe them money (odds of this happening are microscopic).
If you do not show up Monday and for a few more days, they can fire you like Tom said. |
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dave13
Joined: 31 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:35 am Post subject: Leaving early |
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i am currently into my 3rd month in korea and im thinking of leaving in december.
problem is i have holidays in 2 weeks time that is too expensive to cancel and on my contract it says i need to give the 30 days notice. if i wanted to leave in mid december id need to tell the school as soon as i get back. it would give them 3.5 weeks to replace me. im wondering do i really need to give the full 30 days or is 3.5 weeks ok? can they do anything to me?
also can i just tell my boss in person or does it have to b in writing?
im ok with giving my december pay for my flights and anything else they will try to take.
im just looking for advice i have no idea how it works! |
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itistime
Joined: 23 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:51 am Post subject: |
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How do you people get yourselves into these situations?
They can't stop you from leaving. If you can't hack it, and you don't care about the money - you can go! Don't let them steal any more of your soul.
Just cancel your visa with immigration. Good luck with your next adventure. |
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dave13
Joined: 31 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:10 am Post subject: |
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| haha alright i was just asking purely since id b quitting after i come back from a holiday and giving just under the month the contract states u have to give so i wanted to know if they can do anything! |
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lex3
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| I've got the same question. So they can't do anything (legally) if you don't give the full 30 days notice? What is the point of having it in the contract. Obviously they can't physically hold me until my 30 days are up, but can they take money from me? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| lex3 wrote: |
| I've got the same question. So they can't do anything (legally) if you don't give the full 30 days notice? What is the point of having it in the contract. Obviously they can't physically hold me until my 30 days are up, but can they take money from me? |
Can they screw you out of your last month's salary = yes; happens OFTEN in a hagwan when people quit early hence the reason for the midnight-run (quit without notice the day after payday).
Will they chase you for MORE money after you are gone = no.
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lex3
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| lex3 wrote: |
| I've got the same question. So they can't do anything (legally) if you don't give the full 30 days notice? What is the point of having it in the contract. Obviously they can't physically hold me until my 30 days are up, but can they take money from me? |
Can they screw you out of your last month's salary = yes; happens OFTEN in a hagwan when people quit early hence the reason for the midnight-run (quit without notice the day after payday).
Will they chase you for MORE money after you are gone = no.
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what if its a public school? They have a 900,000 won deposit of mine. Would I get that back? I think its supposed to be just a housing deposit, so I would think I would deserve it back. So 2 questions... 1) Would I get it back if I gave the full 30 days?, and 2) Would I be entitled to it back if I only gave 2 weeks? |
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dave13
Joined: 31 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| just to confirm. i can give 3 weeks notice?? the 30 days they ask for in the contract doesnt matter?? |
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plato's republic
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece
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| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:45 am Post subject: |
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OP,
Do name and shame your school in order to prevent others from ending up in the same situation.
Post it up here, or on www.hagwon.reliableteacher.com |
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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:31 am Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
Can they screw you out of your last month's salary = yes; happens OFTEN in a hagwan when people quit early hence the reason for the midnight-run (quit without notice the day after payday).
Will they chase you for MORE money after you are gone = no.
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what if its a public school? They have a 900,000 won deposit of mine. Would I get that back? I think its supposed to be just a housing deposit, so I would think I would deserve it back. So 2 questions... 1) Would I get it back if I gave the full 30 days?, and 2) Would I be entitled to it back if I only gave 2 weeks? |
If it's a PS it might go either way. I've heard of people leaving without any major problems. i've heard of others loosing a lot of money because of "deductions" from the last salary. I guess it all depends on how well the principal takes it - how much he wants to mess with you as revenge. |
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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007
Location: On your computer screen.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| Don't do it! They will send a hitman after you to your home country if you leave!!! |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| plato's republic wrote: |
OP,
Do name and shame your school in order to prevent others from ending up in the same situation.
Post it up here, or on www.hagwon.reliableteacher.com |
Yeah about that site and before anyone relies on what they read there:
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| DISCLAIMERReliable Teacher Hagwon Review does not verify the statements made in these reviews. These reviews are user-generated content and may or may not be accurate. We do our best to weed out ones that are inappropriate or blatantly exaggerated, but we cannot claim responsibility for any misleading information posted by our reviewers. |
So whatever you find there may or may not be accurate. It may be true or made up. It may in fact be anything.
This is the major issue with most of these school rating sites: unreliable information. The valid cautionary tales you may find there are typically drowned into a sea of rants, unfounded accusations and emotionally fueled reviews.
It is very hard to avoid this side-effect when runnign a school review site because none of the peopel who start these sites have the resources, time or capabilities required to post factual and verified information.
Conclusion: whatever you read on those sights needs to be taken with a gigantic grain of salt. |
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