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wiganer
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
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 Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:21 am Post subject: 'Hello Ladies' |
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http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=44456
Korvia, the greatest recruiter in Korea by all accounts are now starting to reveal their hiring prejudices! 
What a joke! I remember the days when every recruiter under the sun would beg anyone with two arms, two legs and a pulse to come on over ASAP - I don't remember anyone giving a toss if you were a man or a woman. Can you walk and talk at the same time? You are hired!
What the Koreans don't realise is that these salad days of cherry picking the young and the female to work in their crapwons for 25 hours a week in the middle of nowhere isn't going to last. In around three years from now - it will be back to normal - and Korean recruiters will have to recruit from the undesireable pool of the fat, old and ugly! If that is you - bide your time - go to China and mark time for a year or two and you will be able to return to Korea. Bet your life it will be back to normal soon enough!  |
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Wiltern
Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:19 am Post subject: Re: 'Hello Ladies' |
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| wiganer wrote: |
| In around three years from now - it will be back to normal |
just curious....what makes you think things will be different 3 years from now? |
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wiganer
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:28 am Post subject: Re: 'Hello Ladies' |
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| Wiltern wrote: |
| wiganer wrote: |
| In around three years from now - it will be back to normal |
just curious....what makes you think things will be different 3 years from now? |
Because nothing lasts forever!
During the winter 2008 GEPIK conference when Dain Bae unveiled the GEPIK 'TALK' programme, she begged us to recommend anyone we knew who might be interested to come over to work for GEPIK 'you don't even need a four year degree' she trilled.
Three months later - the surge came - it was like a tsunami - without warning - I remember reading about some teacher in Gangwon on here who said that it was hard to get a job around there because of the glut of North American newbies that were turning up. That was a shock - who would have thought it could be that difficult in getting a job in Gangwon in all places, and now we have the situation we have today. Let me tell you, it wasn't like this when I first applied to teach to Korea.
It will return back to normal - I am giving it threee years, might be more, it might be less but be advised - it will go back to how it once was.
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itistime
Joined: 23 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:34 am Post subject: Re: 'Hello Ladies' |
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| Wiltern wrote: |
| wiganer wrote: |
| In around three years from now - it will be back to normal |
just curious....what makes you think things will be different 3 years from now? |
Are you fat and uggs? |
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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:50 am Post subject: |
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| LOL...pretty soon it will only be female native teachers in Korea. |
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Kaypea
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| LOL...pretty soon it will only be female native teachers in Korea. |
I know! It's starting to feel like back in the Bronte sisters' era, when all unmarried women who weren't wealthy had to be governesses/nannies... |
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Satchel Paige
Joined: 29 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: 'Hello Ladies' |
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| wiganer wrote: |
http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=44456
Korvia, the greatest recruiter in Korea by all accounts are now starting to reveal their hiring prejudices!
What a joke! I remember the days when every recruiter under the sun would beg anyone with two arms, two legs and a pulse to come on over ASAP - I don't remember anyone giving a toss if you were a man or a woman. Can you walk and talk at the same time? You are hired!
What the Koreans don't realise is that these salad days of cherry picking the young and the female to work in their crapwons for 25 hours a week in the middle of nowhere isn't going to last. In around three years from now - it will be back to normal - and Korean recruiters will have to recruit from the undesireable pool of the fat, old and ugly! If that is you - bide your time - go to China and mark time for a year or two and you will be able to return to Korea. Bet your life it will be back to normal soon enough! |
But this is simply because most of them majored in employable fields back home (such as art history or English) and/or want to experience something 'new'...It's always been that way, it's just, this time around, there happens to be A LOT more of them and greedy hagwon directors are soaking this fact for every penny its worth..
Anyway, hello many plumb unemployed outgoing western women..welcome to korea |
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Tamada
Joined: 02 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| If Korean males had their way, all foreign western males would be banned from ever setting foot in Korea, even as tourists. |
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Radius
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
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| For what its worth, I don't think things will lessen up in three years. Theres just too much word-of-mouth advertising from people already in the country going on on facebook and whatnot. The more people come here, the more their UNemployed friends find out in N. America, and more they want to come over themselves. It will get worse before it gets better (if it ever does.) |
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Vagabundo
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:59 am Post subject: |
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| For what its worth, I don't think things will lessen up in three years. Theres just too much word-of-mouth advertising from people already in the country going on on facebook and whatnot. The more people come here, the more their UNemployed friends find out in N. America, and more they want to come over themselves. It will get worse before it gets better (if it ever does.) |
yeah, I think I agree with that sentiment. |
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furtakk
Joined: 02 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:55 am Post subject: |
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| Vagabundo wrote: |
| Radius wrote: |
| For what its worth, I don't think things will lessen up in three years. Theres just too much word-of-mouth advertising from people already in the country going on on facebook and whatnot. The more people come here, the more their UNemployed friends find out in N. America, and more they want to come over themselves. It will get worse before it gets better (if it ever does.) |
yeah, I think I agree with that sentiment. |
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people on here always cite the recession as the reason for the influx of people, but i think it's this. i wanted to do something post-grad that wasn't more school and i had 3 or so friends on facebook who were here. their pictures looked like they were having a good time and applying for jobs was as easy as sending a couple emails. fast forward to now and the same thing is happening to people a couple years my junior. they're just graduating now and i always get messages from time to time asking about 'how korea is.' |
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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:03 am Post subject: |
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| furtakk wrote: |
| Vagabundo wrote: |
| Radius wrote: |
| For what its worth, I don't think things will lessen up in three years. Theres just too much word-of-mouth advertising from people already in the country going on on facebook and whatnot. The more people come here, the more their UNemployed friends find out in N. America, and more they want to come over themselves. It will get worse before it gets better (if it ever does.) |
yeah, I think I agree with that sentiment. |
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people on here always cite the recession as the reason for the influx of people, but i think it's this. i wanted to do something post-grad that wasn't more school and i had 3 or so friends on facebook who were here. their pictures looked like they were having a good time and applying for jobs was as easy as sending a couple emails. fast forward to now and the same thing is happening to people a couple years my junior. they're just graduating now and i always get messages from time to time asking about 'how korea is.' |
I came before the crisis.....right after college...
90% of people couldn't give a crap about coming to work in Korea or Japan...no matter how much money or easy jobs existed over here.
Amount of interested people who I know who came were about 2-3....most people assumed you needed to be a speaker of an asian language or didn't want to leave the US.
Come 2009, quite alot of folks started coming over here who had real fancy jobs back home....hell of lot more chicks in 2010 too.
The firing of many real teachers back in America probaly did it....the teaching job market wasn't great before 2008....it's horrible now. |
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Some of the Mothers Said
Joined: 01 Jul 2008
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"The Ministry of Education, Science, and Technology(MEST) has claimed that around two thirds of native-speaking English teachers in South Korea quit after six months on the job because of employment or studies, through a report on Sept. 29.
The report submitted by the MEST to the ruling Grand National Party lawmakers showed that as of July 2010, 66.1 percent of native English teachers ended their contract in six months, without completing their one-year contract period. The number of teachers leaving their job halfway through a contract has increased rapidly from 46 percent in 2008 and 57.6 percent in 2009. The average rate over last three years is 56.4 percent, which means one of two native teachers left school before the contract�s expiration."
(http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/441628.html)
Believe it, or not. |
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sojusucks
Joined: 31 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:48 am Post subject: Re: 'Hello Ladies' |
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| wiganer wrote: |
http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=44456
Korvia, the greatest recruiter in Korea by all accounts are now starting to reveal their hiring prejudices! |
These companies like to have their cake and eat it too. That is why they don't pay teachers once they arrive.
More people went there because of the pay. Now that their economy is sucktastic and they are requiring ridiculous things to teach, fewer people are going to teach there. They really know how to ruin Korea's reputation in the ESL industry. |
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sendittheemail
Joined: 15 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 5:33 am Post subject: |
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Direct Quote from their ad:
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| Hello Ladies! You can get a Job in Korea and please join the welcoming party with us!!! |
It does sound a little sleazy. Do they really think that foreign women want to "join the welcoming party" with a bunch of greasy Korean ajeossis? Some do, but most probably don't fancy being force fed alcohol while dirty ajeossi hands wander their bodies.
If anything their ad is unprofessional, and to an extent, gives off vibes of human trafficking and probable sexual harassment. It reminds me of craigslist ads I used to see in Tokyo, trying to lure western women into working in hostess clubs. |
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