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warren pease
Joined: 12 May 2008
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 Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:38 pm Post subject: Multiple Entry PERMIT? |
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A couple teachers at my school, both Americans with multiple entry visas, went to the Philippines over summer break. When they tried to re-enter Korea the customs agent told them they needed to get reentry permits. They showed the agent their reentry visas, but the agent insisted that they needed to buy reentry permits also. They were charged W50,000 each for the permits. Because it was on the spot, at the airport, they were only able to buy singly entry permits (which are now next to their multiple entry visas). So, now if they plan on doing any more travelling they have to go to immigration and buy multiple entry permits.
Has anyone ever heard of this? I've been in this country over three years and have left and come back no less than 5 times. I've never needed anything more than my reentry visa. Is this a new law?
I'm going away over Christmas break and am nervous that this could happen to me.
Any information would be greatly appreciated. |
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zhanknight
Joined: 24 Mar 2010
Location: Yangsan
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| Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting. It might just be one of those 'selective enforcement' situations with immigration, or it could be an immigration guy that didn't understand the rules/was grumpy.
We've gotta get a re-entry permit before Christmas so that we can come back in from Cambodia without a hitch. We just have a single entry visa. |
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warren pease
Joined: 12 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Never mind. I checked the immigration website, and it seems they were just over charged by an immigration officer that didn't know what he was talking about.
Anyone holding a valid Multiple Entry visa isn't required to buy the permit |
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OculisOrbis
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Had they been working in korea for more than a year on their visas?
The multiple entry on the visa is only good for one year (The valid period of the visa). If they extended their visa after the first year to continue working, then they need to buy new re-entry permits. The multiple entry does not carry over into the period of extension. |
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illvibetip
Joined: 28 Oct 2010
Location: south korea
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:05 am Post subject: |
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OculisOrbis
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:09 am Post subject: |
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| American do usually get a multiple entry endorsement on their E-2 visas,,,but it's only good for one year.....when they extend the visa past one year they need to purchase a re-entry permit if they want to leave and return to work under that extended visa. |
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warren pease
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| OculisOrbis wrote: |
| American do usually get a multiple entry endorsement on their E-2 visas,,,but it's only good for one year.....when they extend the visa past one year they need to purchase a re-entry permit if they want to leave and return to work under that extended visa. |
I'm not sure if i understand what you are saying. When you extend your visa, aren't you in effect getting a new visa. When you extend your visa doesn't the expiration date change accordingly? If the expiration date isn't changed on the visa, what physical proof is there that the visa was extended.
They have been here for more than a year, and it seems that you are probably correct. I just don't understand the process. When you extend your visa for another year don't you have to pay again for the visa?
OK, nuts and bolts of what I'm asking: my girlfriend extended her visa from last year. It's a Multiple entry visa that won't expire for three months after our return date. How do we know if she needs another multiple entry permit? |
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Carla
Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| OculisOrbis wrote: |
Had they been working in korea for more than a year on their visas?
The multiple entry on the visa is only good for one year (The valid period of the visa). If they extended their visa after the first year to continue working, then they need to buy new re-entry permits. The multiple entry does not carry over into the period of extension. |
+1
For example, Americans are automatically given multiple entry visas. But if we renew our visas, it is onliy a single entry visa. Some people don't realize this and run into problems at the airport. |
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OculisOrbis
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| warren pease wrote: |
| OculisOrbis wrote: |
| American do usually get a multiple entry endorsement on their E-2 visas,,,but it's only good for one year.....when they extend the visa past one year they need to purchase a re-entry permit if they want to leave and return to work under that extended visa. |
I'm not sure if i understand what you are saying. When you extend your visa, aren't you in effect getting a new visa. When you extend your visa doesn't the expiration date change accordingly? If the expiration date isn't changed on the visa, what physical proof is there that the visa was extended.
They have been here for more than a year, and it seems that you are probably correct. I just don't understand the process. When you extend your visa for another year don't you have to pay again for the visa?
OK, nuts and bolts of what I'm asking: my girlfriend extended her visa from last year. It's a Multiple entry visa that won't expire for three months after our return date. How do we know if she needs another multiple entry permit? |
Nuts and Bolts:
You know she needs a new re-entry permit if she renewed/extended her visa past one year. After her original visa year, she needs to buy a single or multiple re-entry permit to return to korea after her trip. The multiple entry endorsement from her original one year term is no longer valid.
If she doesnt, her visa could be cancelled when she returns to korea and she'll have to re-enter as a tourist (can't work at a job), submit all her documents again, apply for a new visa, wait for the issuance number and then go on a visa run to japan and then come back to korea and start working again. Minimum two weeks to complete and that's assuming she has all her documents on-hand.
Solution:
Buy a re-entry permit (single or multiple) BEFORE she goes on her trip. |
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warren pease
Joined: 12 May 2008
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| Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:04 am Post subject: |
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i'm still not seeing where the separation of visa and permit comes into play. In her passport is a visa stamped M (multiple entry) with an expiration date way in the future. If you possess a multiple entry visa, what could a multiple entry permit mean? If you get a multiple entry visa extended - going to immigration, paying money, having the extended visa information put into your passport - how is it reasonable that it somehow ceases to be a multiple entry visa.
That sounds like having car insurance. Renewing your insurance after your first year. Signing the paperwork, paying for the next year in advance, and then being told that you have to buy a separate "possible accident permit." |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:19 am Post subject: |
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| warren pease wrote: |
i'm still not seeing where the separation of visa and permit comes into play. In her passport is a visa stamped M (multiple entry) with an expiration date way in the future. If you possess a multiple entry visa, what could a multiple entry permit mean? If you get a multiple entry visa extended - going to immigration, paying money, having the extended visa information put into your passport - how is it reasonable that it somehow ceases to be a multiple entry visa.
That sounds like having car insurance. Renewing your insurance after your first year. Signing the paperwork, paying for the next year in advance, and then being told that you have to buy a separate "possible accident permit." |
When you "extend your visa" you actually in fact extend your status of sojourn (your permitted period to stay in the country) and NOT the visa (permission to enter the country).
It is a misnomer to say, "extend your visa," even though it is the term in use in the popular parlance.
When you extend your sojourn you have NOT extended the "re-entry privileges" that were granted on your initial visa - hence the need to apply for a new re-entry permit. The application fee is 30k won for single use or 50k won for multiple use permits.
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OculisOrbis
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:20 am Post subject: |
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It's not reasonable and, yes, it's just like buying a 'possible accident permit'.
I dont know how much more I can dumb it down.....
An American enters korea on a multiple entry E-2 visa that is valid for one year.
One year passes and they extend the sojourn, but...
THE MULTIPLE ENTRY PORTION OF THE VISA/SOJOURN IS NOT EXTENDABLE!!!!
The 'M' is valid for one year only and she must now purchase a new re-entry permit if she wants to leave korea and return to the same job under the extended visa/sojourn.
Once she has done that, she can leave korea, enjoy her vacation and come back and resume her job.
If she doesnt purchase a re-entry permit before she departs for her vacation, see above.
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:09 am Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
The application fee is 30k won for single use or 50k won for multiple use permits.
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So, if you are pretty sure you will only be making one round trip out of Korea, get the single. Otherwise, the multi makes more sense.
But if I was not sure if I was going abroad once or twice, I would still only get the single, because the difference in buying 2 singles is only 10k won-no big deal! And what percentage of teachers actually make more than 2 trips out of the country in the course of a year? I am betting a pretty low percentage. |
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