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[Junior]

This could be the future for Korea now they have banned corporal punishment...

My 13-year-old pupil swung his fist at me and yelled 'I'm gonna break your jaw': One teacher exposes the wilful anarchy in Britain's Wild West classrooms

To my everlasting shame, I left a teaching job because I was scared of a child. Although he was only 13, Ralph was a well-built boy who was known for taking an irrational dislike to new teachers. Unfortunately, he displayed a greater antagonism towards me than to any of the other five supply teachers at his West Yorkshire school.

Retreating to the back of the class during lessons, he�d proclaim my failings to the other pupils � �Mr Carroll stinks of s***�; �Sir�s a virgin�; �Don�t listen to him. He�s only a supply teacher � he don�t know nothing.�
If I told him to be quiet, he spoke louder; if I ignored him, he laughed. I wished I could send him out, but the head had made it clear that once the pupils were in a classroom, we had to do our best to keep them there.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1327876/13-year-old-pupil-swung-fist-yelled-Im-gonna-break-jaw-says-teacher.html#ixzz14thtbtxC

[hondaicivic]

[SinclairLondon]

In 1908 in the US, 70 percent of elementary students didn't move onto to middle school. They went to farms, factories, the sea or ships. I don't want to go back to the past but I am a strong propopent of alternative education for many young people.

[oldfatfarang]

[Geumchondave]

I also have to disagree - every study has shown that corporal punishment does not affect long term behavior issues - bad students will always be bad students until they are engaged - beating them just makes them be quiet until the original pain fades away and then you have to do it again.

The real issue is the home environment and the emphasis more widely put on education in mainstream society - thats the big difference between uk and s.korean schools - and that is changing, just like in the uk the assumption is increasingly that if you go to school you can go to uni and if you go to uni there will be a good job waiting for you - regardless of how much effort you put in to your studies, and that will change the classroom dynamic.

[edwardcatflap]

[Fishead soup]

The only reason why Anarchy gets a bad name is becouse it is always associated with violence. No one wants to mention the violence that is created by bad government.

[Geumchondave]

No, im guessing he probably didnt really give a crap either which way about his future. i'm saying that he was probably never told that education was really a very valuable commodity and that teachers where respected - it was just another thing to do with his time and another adult telling him what to do as opposed to seeing it as an opportunity

[chellovek]

Daily Mail.... should be taken with a pinch of salt.

[edwardcatflap]

[machina1985]

One or two documentaries on channel 4 aren't representative of the norm though.

[Geumchondave]

[cj1976]

I briefly flirted with the idea of being a teacher in the UK, but I decided against it for reasons like that. It's an absolutely thankless, no -win task teaching kids back home. I read somewhere (maybe in a newspaper, I can't remember) that the average 'lifespan' for a secondary school teacher in the UK is about 4 years. It's about time teachers were protected and given proper incentives to stay in the job.

[discostu333]

There's multiple variables to consider in this debate. The removing corporal punishment is probably one of the weakest variables because as one informed poster put it, bad students will be bad students as its what goes on outside of school that drives their bad behavior.

I'd argue that a general lack of moral framework / poor parenting / abject poverty / social neglect is largely to blame for the increase in violent pupils in UK schools. Being from the UK, I see large sections of the populous every day who are more or less feral animals, whose lives are solely concerned with eating, defecating and reproducing. To call these people 'lower class' is an insult to the good men and women of the British working class who are the backbone of the country.

The kids who are the worst behaved at my school in Korea are the ones who live in the concrete cancer riddled dongs out in the country. The ones who come into school covered in cuts and bruises. The ones who struggle at school because the importance of education is not imbued in them at an early age by their parents. These are the kids who should skip school altogether and go straight to working on the family cabbage farm, drive a delivery scooter, or get a job with the local mob running hookers around the love motels. They are wasting their time at school, because they don't realize they have time to waste.

[sluggo832004]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aZ6bj_EO_o&feature=related



America isnt a cake walk either............ lol