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jzrossef
Joined: 05 Nov 2010
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:37 pm Post subject: The reality of living cost in Korea... |
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I'm probably on the wrong track here as a lot of people love bragging about how cheap it is to live in Korea... but bear with me here.
Other than foreign brands, imported and luxury goods... (tend to be expensive regardless of where you live) I'm having a benefit of doubt about living cost in Korea.
Here's an example. I remember that typical lunch/dinner menu range from 5000-8000 won. That's about $5 - $7, which isn't all that cheap compared to what we have in Canada. (Around $7-8-ish in average) Housing accommodation seems to be about 400,000 won, but that's about $360-ish perm month. Finding an apartment with Korean sized accommodation in Canada isn't terribly expensive, especially in a time where there are more supply over demand in housing market. ($500-800 even in cities like Calgary and Toronto) I surfed around, and it looks like internet fee cost around 30,000 won, which is $27 Canadian. (Pretty similar to my Telus internet fee here) While Canadian price can be a bit more expensive, one has to consider that Canadian salary and dollar value tends to be a lot stronger than Korean counterparts. I guess 2-3 million per month + housing benefit... so really about 2.5 - 3.5 million-ish. That's like, ranging 30 - 42 million won... which is above average in Korea but isn't all that impressive in Canada (27 - 38k Canadian dollars) Other than public transit... is there significant cost expense difference between Korea and North America? I'd love to see some real-life examples, if anyone care to share some.
I know the answer is yes, but I just would like to be able to visualize here. |
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nukeday
Joined: 13 May 2010
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think Korea (especially Seoul) is a cheap place to live at all, and I'm coming from San Diego. I think maybe the UKers would consider it cheap here.
Rents are *marginally* cheaper here - but most of us have the place given to us. I'd say the 400,000 won cash if you find your own place would not go very far in the cities. So this depends on where you're coming from and where you live in korea
Transportation is a lot cheaper.
Taxes are low.
As for restaurants..lunch: 5000 won. dinner: 8000-14,000
Food (in restaurants and especially at the supermarket), alcohol (again, bar or store..unless you drink korean soju and rice wine), clothes, utilities (never had to pay for heat or AC before), electronics...I could go on, but all of those things are more expensive in Seoul/Korea for me personally.
It all really comes down to where you're coming from (which country? urban/rural/) and where you'll stay in Korea (Seoul, another major city, the sticks?) |
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dongjak
Joined: 30 Oct 2010
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with the above post. I never thought that Seoul was that cheap, except for if you shop for clothes in Dongdaemun or Express Bus Terminal.
I find furniture here to be terribly expensive and ugly. |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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I lived in Seoul for two years (2008-2010) and I thought it was much more expensive all around than living in America. I honestly cannot think of a single thing, besides Korean food and soju, that is less expensive in Korea than it is in the part of America where I'm from (Seattle). I'm talking about for things of comparable quality, here.
And I even think cheap Korean food in Korea is still more expensive than cheap American food in America. Here I can get a double cheeseburger at BK for a dollar. In Seoul you can't even get a roll of kimbap for 1,000 won anymore.
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nukeday
Joined: 13 May 2010
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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redaxe wrote: |
And I even think cheap Korean food in Korea is still more expensive than cheap American food in America. |
Yes, agreed. I think the whole "low cost of living" in Korea must've come from information 7+ years old...internet info dies hard.
At least the myth of Korea being "the best country to save money in" are finally fizzling out with the exchange rate not being what it used to be for years.
People talk less and less about "making SO MUCH MONEY" in Korea. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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The cost of living in or around Seoul is about the same as living in American/Canadian city. The main area you can save is transportation, as trains/subways/buses/taxis are significantly cheaper than they are at home. Even a long subway ride here will cost you less than $2, whereas a two stop subway ride in New York, Montreal, or Boston will cost you more (the three cities that I can really speak for).
I think that most of the people who say they live on 400,000 a month live out in the boondocks and live on rice and ramyeon. You could do this in North America too. |
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jzrossef
Joined: 05 Nov 2010
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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nukeday wrote: |
I don't think Korea (especially Seoul) is a cheap place to live at all, and I'm coming from San Diego. I think maybe the UKers would consider it cheap here.
Rents are *marginally* cheaper here - but most of us have the place given to us. I'd say the 400,000 won cash if you find your own place would not go very far in the cities. So this depends on where you're coming from and where you live in korea
Transportation is a lot cheaper.
Taxes are low.
As for restaurants..lunch: 5000 won. dinner: 8000-14,000
Food (in restaurants and especially at the supermarket), alcohol (again, bar or store..unless you drink korean soju and rice wine), clothes, utilities (never had to pay for heat or AC before), electronics...I could go on, but all of those things are more expensive in Seoul/Korea for me personally.
It all really comes down to where you're coming from (which country? urban/rural/) and where you'll stay in Korea (Seoul, another major city, the sticks?) |
I can see the cost of living in Seoul is the most expensive... but still, 30-40k annual salary isn't all that difficult in Canada or US. I thought people sometimes decided to live there despite weaker salary in Korea is because living cost is better than the North America... but I'm seeing that that may not be the case at all. Dinner cost 8000 - 14,000... that's actually much worse compared to Calgary or Toronto (Toronto is the most crowded city in Canada btw) where dinner expense typically average around $10-ish. I'm surprised that the living cost in Korea isn't all that different from Canada or United States... is it just the fact that it's easier to be employed there then? It doesn't look like people with 2.5-3.5 salary, supposedly above the average in Korea, isn't all that impressive.
I also don't think cost difference wouldn't be all that significant. In certain areas like housing, I can see that the price can come down. But for everyday spending like food, electronics and clothings... wouldn't that be really difference of 1-2 thousand wons really?
So much for living comfortably with 2 million won per month... I guess that doesn't really work if you plan on staying long-term in Korea.
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Oh ok, yeah. The subway and buses in Seoul still very cheap at 900 won. The price of taxis went up last year but they are still very cheap compared to in America. That's a good example. But I don't think it makes up for the high rents, high consumer goods prices, and skyrocketing costs of groceries in Korea.
I often wondered how taxi drivers could survive on such low wages, especially given how expensive cars and gas are in Korea. They must be subsidized somehow.
I think the main reason why westerners think it's cheap to live in Korea is just because they don't have to pay rent or own a car in Korea. If you didn't own a car, and ate as cheaply back in America or Canada you could probably save just as much money. I really don't think the money is a valid reason to go to Korea anymore. These days it's more just about being able to have a job at all. |
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jzrossef
Joined: 05 Nov 2010
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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So the only cheap thing about Korea is transportation? :S |
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blm
Joined: 11 Nov 2010
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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northway wrote: |
I think that most of the people who say they live on 400,000 a month live out in the boondocks and live on rice and ramyeon. You could do this in North America too. |
I think there's a lot of truth in that.
It's someone else's theory not mine but they said Korea is cheaper because you lower your standards.
Your not constantly buying presents for your family, he was using a couch he found rather than bought, he would want a bigger apartment back home etc etc.
Your on the other side of the world so it's easy to go native in regards to clothes and such. |
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nukeday
Joined: 13 May 2010
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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jzrossef wrote: |
I can see the cost of living in Seoul is the most expensive... but still, 30-40k annual salary isn't all that difficult in Canada or US. I thought people sometimes decided to live there despite weaker salary in Korea is because living cost is better than the North America... but I'm seeing that that may not be the case at all. Dinner cost 8000 - 14,000... that's actually much worse compared to Calgary or Toronto (Toronto is the most crowded city in Canada btw) where dinner expense typically average around $10-ish. I'm surprised that the living cost in Korea isn't all that different from Canada or United States... is it just the fact that it's easier to be employed there then? It doesn't look like people with 2.5-3.5 salary, supposedly above the average in Korea, isn't all that impressive.
I also don't think cost difference wouldn't be all that significant. In certain areas like housing, I can see that the price can come down. But for everyday spending like food, electronics and clothings... wouldn't that be really difference of 1-2 thousand wons really?
So much for living comfortably with 2 million won per month... I guess that doesn't really work if you plan on staying long-term in Korea. |
I think it comes down to more than just cost of living. A big thing to consider is low taxes. My deductions are probably around 12%...but 4.5% is pension which is matched by my employer and you can get that returned when you leave Korea...so your take-home salary is generally pretty decent. Severance is a bonus month's pay. And if you work in public schools, you get 4-6 (6 if you renew) weeks vacation a year, even if it used to be better
You're right, with groceries maybe it comes out to just a few dollars more per day. But no, buy large consumer electronics (say, a nice TV), and you will PAY for it in korea. Big ticket items like TVs and laptop computers can literally cost hundreds of dollars more in korea than in north america. There's a lot to take into account.
Wait, I got one!!! cigarettes are cheaper in Korea. You can puff away in that moderately cheap taxi...if the driver lets you.
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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jzrossef wrote: |
So the only cheap thing about Korea is transportation? :S |
The Jeonsae system can make life a lot cheaper too. If you can scrape together about 1/3 of the value of an apartment as a deposit then you can live there rent-free.
So, as long as there's public transport for work and you have managed to pay jeonsae, then you don't need to run a car and you don't need to pay rent.........these are two big differences that most people in the west don't get to take advantage of.
Food is no doubt getting expensive in Korea.....you just need to grin and bear it when your favorite fruit and veg is out of season and costs a fortune. Buy what's in season.
Meat is cheap enough in certain outlets. I live near a butchers called The Meat Shop (Bundang) which sells USDA beef very cheap. About 7000 won for a 1lb steak. 700 won per 100g for US bulgogi...you can get tons of that for 10,000 won!! Not the best cut of the cow but very good all the same.
Drinking the local booze saves a lot of money.....although Cass and soju can get grim.....I brighten up my boozing with Jamesons Irish whiskey which can be found for 30,000 here and there.
Also remember that Koreans don't take foreign vacations often! They usually can't get time off work. That saves!
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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eamo wrote: |
jzrossef wrote: |
So the only cheap thing about Korea is transportation? :S |
The Jeonsae system can make life a lot cheaper too. If you can scrape together about 1/3 of the value of an apartment as a deposit then you can live there rent-free.
So, as long as there's public transport for work and you have managed to pay jeonsae, then you don't need to run a car and you don't need to pay rent.........these are two big differences that most people in the west don't get to take advantage of.
Food is no doubt getting expensive in Korea.....you just need to grin and bear it when your favorite fruit and veg is out of season and costs a fortune. Buy what's in season.
Meat is cheap enough in certain outlets. I live near a butchers called The Meat Shop (Bundang) which sells USDA beef very cheap. About 7000 won for a 1lb steak. 700 won per 100g for US bulgogi...you can get tons of that for 10,000 won!! Not the best cut of the cow but very good all the same.
Drinking the local booze saves a lot of money.....although Cass and soju can get grim.....I brighten up my boozing with Jamesons Irish whiskey which can be found for 30,000 here and there.
Also remember that Koreans don't take foreign vacations often! They usually can't get time off work. That saves!
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OK, so we have taxis, buses/subway, soju, and cigarettes. Those things are all very cheap in Korea.
I'm not really buying that meat is cheap in Korea compared to anywhere else. I just bought two sirloin steaks at the grocery store here in Seattle, 1.25 pounds of meat, for $3.71 USD (I just opened my fridge to check the label). Meat is just much, much cheaper in America. Especially beef. And the most inexpensive beef in Korea all comes from where? America. |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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jzrossef wrote: |
I can see the cost of living in Seoul is the most expensive... but still, 30-40k annual salary isn't all that difficult in Canada or US. I thought people sometimes decided to live there despite weaker salary in Korea is because living cost is better than the North America... but I'm seeing that that may not be the case at all. Dinner cost 8000 - 14,000... that's actually much worse compared to Calgary or Toronto (Toronto is the most crowded city in Canada btw) where dinner expense typically average around $10-ish. I'm surprised that the living cost in Korea isn't all that different from Canada or United States... is it just the fact that it's easier to be employed there then? It doesn't look like people with 2.5-3.5 salary, supposedly above the average in Korea, isn't all that impressive. |
Calgary is not cheap. Was in Calgary in August, unless you're eating in Chinatown, or fast food, dinner in a bar or restaurant is going to cost you at least $10-$15 without a drink. The the beer will be $5-$8, although you do get a pint. I believe a 15 piece bucket at KFC puts you down $30, but the Tuesday Toonie meals are a good deal. And Korean food in Calgary is at least double, or more, of the prices you'll see in Korea. And service in Calgary blows chunks. It was bad before, but now I don't know how much worse it can get.
As for getting paid $30,000 to $40,000, in Canada, don't forget that around $10,000+ goes to income tax, CPP, health care and other taxes. |
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Dazed and Confused
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Korea has certianly gotten more expensive over the years and I don't think the salaries have caught up with inflation yet. Maybe they never will.
I'm from rural America where the minimum wage is what the federal government says it is. I guess that's $7.25/hour before taxes now? Korea seems about the same or a little more expensive at times but some things are still cheaper.
Medical care and medicine
Eyeglasses
Dental care
most services such as hair cuts, cleaning ladies and maybe even daycare for those who've got kids.
university tuition
car repairs
cigarettes
and of course.........KIMCHI!  |
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