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decolyon



Joined: 24 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:57 pm    Post subject: Rugby League Reply with quote

I'm looking for a new sport to get into. Being American and having played football all the way through high school, I'm naturally drawn to rugby.

I know there is a rather well organized ladies rugby team (Seoul Sisters) but I don't know anyone on it. Is their a male counterpart? I'm sure there is.

But, here's the thing... I've never even seen a rugby ball in real life before. I know what they look like and I've watched a few matches on TV before, but I've never been played or even understand the rules. So, if there was a team that just likes to play because it's fun and doesn't mind taking on a newb and show the ropes, I'd certainly want in.

I also think it would be a good workout. I like how rugby players are all big and nasty but also trim enough to be able to run around a field. They have what we'd call in the States a "linebacker" build. I want that.

Anyways, any help would be much appreciated.

deco
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chest rockwell



Joined: 16 May 2005
Location: Sanbon

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Google seoul survivors. Sign up to their yahoo mailing list. They don't play rugby league though they play rugby union. Good luck.
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wiganer



Joined: 13 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You want to try rugby league. I like rugby union, don't get me wrong but rugby league is a very exciting sport, continuous action - when played between two well matched teams - as far as spectator sports go - it is hard to beat.

Surely there is a team of expat Australians around Seoul who have a rugby league team? Good luck with that - you'll love it!
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decolyon



Joined: 24 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoa, wait... you mean there are two different sports of rugby?

Please explain.
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wiganer wrote:
rugby league is a very exciting sport, continuous action


League is an excruciating case of stop, go, stop, go IMHO. It lacks any beauty or fluidity. What I find ridiculous is how they have to writhe on the deck in order to retain the ball.


I love R. union but what annoys me lately is the new way of handling scrums. Takes too long.
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StavvioD



Joined: 31 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know there are a few touch rugby teams/leagues in Seoul. I haven't played for any of them (really need to get back in shape!), but have spoken to some lads who have/do and they tell me it's basically league (5 tackles and turnover) except without the heavy hits...

But, yeah - get on the Seoul Survivors page and they'll have all the info you'll need. They're even on facebook now too...
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wiganer



Joined: 13 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

decolyon wrote:
Whoa, wait... you mean there are two different sports of rugby?

Please explain.


Oh yes.

Rugby League is 13 a side. The action is more flowing, the players are fitter and better athletes (check out the first cross code games between world club champions Wigan vs rugby union English champions Bath - Jeremy Guscott wouldn't even turn up) There is less difference in size, athletic ability and pace in league than there is in union between the forwards and the backs. Lot's of womens teams in union - not so many in league - which says it all really.

Rugby League is the game of the working classes that began in the North of England because rugby administrators at the time expected their best players (who usually worked in the coal mines) to take time off work and not be compensated, rugby league came about because it was thought to make more sense to play for pay and it took off in countries like Australia, New Zealand, England, France and Papua New Guinea (where it is the national sport)

Rugby League was a groundbreaker in regards race relations - black players of Afro-Carribean descent were playing and captaining for GB long before any other British sporting team would allow a black man on their team - and we are talking by a good 20 years.

Don't listen to Junior - what does he know? Wink
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WilliamThomas



Joined: 11 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer to watch Union but both are decent. Union is the one with a bit more prestige, more coverage, bigger attendance etc. You will be fitter playing League as there is more running and more of the field to cover as its 13 players instead of 15.

Still you should try watching a game of both and see what you think. If you've seen any international matches chances are it was Union
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samd



Joined: 03 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rugby Union - Played and watched by rich wankers. As wiganer says, the players are fatter softer and slower. More money in and behind the game means that it's more international, the Rugby World Cup and the World Sevens are huge events. The biggest game in New Zealand, the nation falls into a deep depression whenever the All Blacks lose.

Rugby League - Played and watched by violent psychopaths. More popular in Australia than Union, especially among the working classes. Popular in the North of England, and huge in PNG. A quicker game, but has been ruined in recent years in my opinion by the banning of violent tackles and the overly defensive natural of the game these days. I blame the interchange rule and the desire to try to make the game more family-oriented. I miss the swinging arms, brawls and spear tackles.
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Kurtz



Joined: 05 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the gentlemen of the League game.

http://www.sportsgrid.com/media/rugby-player-photo-simulating-sex-with-dog/
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wiganer



Joined: 13 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

samd wrote:
Rugby Union - Played and watched by rich wankers. As wiganer says, the players are fatter softer and slower. More money in and behind the game means that it's more international, the Rugby World Cup and the World Sevens are huge events. The biggest game in New Zealand, the nation falls into a deep depression whenever the All Blacks lose.


And they keep bottling it in the world cup - so called best rugby team on the planet and have only won the world cup once - at home in 1987! Laughing The next time they will win it is when it is on home turf.

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Rugby League - Played and watched by violent psychopaths. More popular in Australia than Union, especially among the working classes. Popular in the North of England, and huge in PNG. A quicker game, but has been ruined in recent years in my opinion by the banning of violent tackles and the overly defensive natural of the game these days. I blame the interchange rule and the desire to try to make the game more family-oriented. I miss the swinging arms, brawls and spear tackles.


Indeed!

http://www.eraofthebiff.com/p06-you.html
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Kimchi Cha Cha



Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: was Suncheon, now Brisbane

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this old adage sums it up best: 'Rugby Union is a thug's game, played by gentlemen. Rugby League is a gentlemen's game, played by thugs.'

I grew on the North Shore of Sydney, an affluent path of Sydney, but grew up following League as my folks, Mum in particular, were Westies come good and I went to a public school. My grandfather loved the Western Suburbs Magpies. All the toffs wearing Victorian-era uniforms went off to play Rugby Union or row on the weekends, whereas the other kids played soccer or Rugby League.

This was also during League's halcyon days of the late 80's/early 90's with the likes of Sterlo, Big Mal, King Wally, Blocker, Backdoor Benny Elias and Siro playing. The game was locked in a messy civil war for the best of ten years afterwards and ever since my beloved North Sydney Bears have disappeared I've taken less interest and am more into Aussie Rules and soccer.

I've been amazed at how well our national Rugby Union team, the Wallabies, have been for the past 20 years considering Rugby Union is the least played football code in Australia (behind soccer, Aussie Rules, and Rugby League). I appreciate both rugby codes despite still not fully knowing just what they're doing half the time in Rugby Union. Once the Central Coast Bears start up, I'll jump back on the Rugby League bandwagon.

Rugby League would be an easy game to get the hang of, though I'd imagine there'd be more Rugby Union players about as it's played in all parts of Britain & Ireland, NZ, South Africa, the Pacific Islands & parts of Europe & Latin America (France, Ireland & Argentina) whereas League is only really played in northern England, the Australian eastern seaboard, PNG and the Pacific Islands (and to a lesser degree in France & NZ).
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soul rebels



Joined: 19 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rugby league is my number 1 sport, rugby unions ok but a bit slow they take 5 minutes or more to set up scrums and lineouts.... but i dont want to get into the league verses union debate check both codes of rugby out on youtube and make up your own mind! rugby league is not currently played in korea, if i ever head back to korea i'd make it my mission to get rugby league up and running in korea! koreans would be better suited to rugby league than rugby union in my opinion.


there is the seoul survivors rugby union team for expats, i went to a couple of there trainings and we had a game of rugby league as training (late 2008 i think it was)! touch rugby is played in korea and it is a basically rugby league with no tackling or kicking!

new zealand are the current rugby league world champions and the 2010 4 nations champions check this out!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6SA59d_z5g
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decolyon



Joined: 24 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

soul rebels wrote:
rugby league is my number 1 sport, rugby unions ok but a bit slow they take 5 minutes or more to set up scrums and lineouts.... but i dont want to get into the league verses union debate check both codes of rugby out on youtube and make up your own mind! rugby league is not currently played in korea, if i ever head back to korea i'd make it my mission to get rugby league up and running in korea! koreans would be better suited to rugby league than rugby union in my opinion.


there is the seoul survivors rugby union team for expats, i went to a couple of there trainings and we had a game of rugby league as training (late 2008 i think it was)! touch rugby is played in korea and it is a basically rugby league with no tackling or kicking!

new zealand are the current rugby league world champions and the 2010 4 nations champions check this out!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6SA59d_z5g


OKay...... that was awesome.

So here's my next question. I could probably find that whole match online to watch. But can you suggest a good Rugby Union match to watch to give me a good idea of what the sport looks like?
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wiganer



Joined: 13 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you check out any game between France and the All Blacks of New Zealand - they always make great games as you pit French flair against Kiwi ruggedness.. look up on you tube for the 1999 and 2007 world cup games between France and New Zealand.
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