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BaldTeacher



Joined: 02 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:16 am    Post subject: Leaving jobs off of resumes Reply with quote

I pulled a runner from a horrible hagwon job, but I want to teach in Korea again.

Starting now, I will apply to jobs from home and if nothing turns up by January, I will fly to Korea on a tourist visa and get a job there.

My question is, what should I do about this job on my resume? It's a small obscure school, so I could maybe say that they went out of business or something. If I left them off my resume they'd see that I was over there on an E-2, wouldn't they?

What's the best course of action?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Leaving jobs off of resumes Reply with quote

BaldTeacher wrote:
I pulled a runner from a horrible hagwon job, but I want to teach in Korea again.

Starting now, I will apply to jobs from home and if nothing turns up by January, I will fly to Korea on a tourist visa and get a job there.

My question is, what should I do about this job on my resume? It's a small obscure school, so I could maybe say that they went out of business or something. If I left them off my resume they'd see that I was over there on an E-2, wouldn't they?

What's the best course of action?


Any new employer WON'T know about nor see your prior E2 UNLESS:

a) you are planning to apply in Korea (and don't need the consular interview at home)

b) Unless you tell them.

they only see the information page of your passport.

Immigration won't care one way or the other as long as you worked legally (e2) and didn't have an immigration blackmark (overstay or illegal work).

Whether or not to leave it off or just fuzz the details?

Personally, I would suggest:

a) fudge the details a bit (school closed - sent home...da, da, da... if you were there long enough to get your ARC)

b) skip it if you were there less than 90 days.

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Catfisher



Joined: 10 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I started a thread on something similar to the OP but got no bites.

How indepth are recruiters/employers checking former employers?
I have a couple of run-ins with past schools about things like working at two locations, not working overtime, not working weekends, not tutoring the director's son for 15,000 won an hour on the weekends.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Catfisher wrote:
I started a thread on something similar to the OP but got no bites.

How indepth are recruiters/employers checking former employers?
I have a couple of run-ins with past schools about things like working at two locations, not working overtime, not working weekends, not tutoring the director's son for 15,000 won an hour on the weekends.


If they have a phone number (that you give them) they will call.

IF they don't have a phone number there is no way for them to even find most hakwons let alone do any kind of in-depth check.

Immigration won't say anything.

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Catfisher



Joined: 10 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Catfisher wrote:
I started a thread on something similar to the OP but got no bites.

How indepth are recruiters/employers checking former employers?
I have a couple of run-ins with past schools about things like working at two locations, not working overtime, not working weekends, not tutoring the director's son for 15,000 won an hour on the weekends.


If they have a phone number (that you give them) they will call.

IF they don't have a phone number there is no way for them to even find most hakwons let alone do any kind of in-depth check.

Immigration won't say anything.

.


That's exactly what I was thinking. If they press me for a phone number, I'll just give them a K friend's phone number.
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qcat79



Joined: 18 Aug 2006
Location: ROK

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Catfisher wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
Catfisher wrote:
I started a thread on something similar to the OP but got no bites.

How indepth are recruiters/employers checking former employers?
I have a couple of run-ins with past schools about things like working at two locations, not working overtime, not working weekends, not tutoring the director's son for 15,000 won an hour on the weekends.


If they have a phone number (that you give them) they will call.

IF they don't have a phone number there is no way for them to even find most hakwons let alone do any kind of in-depth check.

Immigration won't say anything.

.


That's exactly what I was thinking. If they press me for a phone number, I'll just give them a K friend's phone number.


exactly. i did that before.
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fromipanema



Joined: 31 Aug 2010
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking of pulling a runner.
What would you do in the case of going back to your home country to get a job? For example, I'm just wondering if I put my job on my resume, how will future employers see it? It would be rather awkward to leave it off as I've been here almost six months. Do most jobs check international references? Does anyone have any experience with this?
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nukeday



Joined: 13 May 2010

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most American employers would probably not want to make an international call to Korea to speak to someone who speaks little English. In that case, give the number of a Korean friend who speaks VERY little English. Very Happy

It would be a short call.
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fromipanema wrote:
I'm thinking of pulling a runner.
What would you do in the case of going back to your home country to get a job? For example, I'm just wondering if I put my job on my resume, how will future employers see it? It would be rather awkward to leave it off as I've been here almost six months. Do most jobs check international references? Does anyone have any experience with this?


I'd say since it's less than 1 year experience, just try again as a newbie in Korea. You'll have a much quicker learning curve since you know more than a real newbie out having came over before. Just leave it off and try again. If looking for a job back home, fill your gaps with anything other than doing nothing while unemployed even if it's just unverifiable work or study abroad. No, they won't try to verify it unless it was an assignment involving related experience for a large company with offices in your home country. If unverifiable, it doesn't count, but at least you might be able to hide the sabbatical gaps. Overseas, self employment, unrelated experience, and jobs in defunct companies don't work to your advantage in proving you have the skills to do a certain job better than anyone else without being told what to do. Only experiences and referrals with someone high up in a company to vouch for you work in getting your foot in the door to hit the ground running. I wish I could say life's a beach in the business world, but few are hiring newbies, college grads, and career changers in this economy like schools over in Korea do.
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fromipanema



Joined: 31 Aug 2010
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, thanks for the advice!
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Hotpants



Joined: 27 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're leaving early to go back home (although I hope you would do the decent thing and give proper notice), then you just cover the period by claiming 'traveling/writing a novel/studying Korean'. Simple.
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