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shinraunit
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:41 am Post subject: 2 year limit for working at the same place? |
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Last year my (private) elementary school discharged some Korean ESL teachers on the premise of some "new law" that imposes a 2-year limit on employees, (yet that somehow didn't apply to anyone else, including foreign teachers) We all thought it was BS and was being used to cover up some office-political motivations, but it went through quietly.
Now, myself and another teacher have been approached with this same "two-year limit," saying that the school "wasn't sure" if they'd be able to re-hire us next year. I asked for a copy of this law and my director just said to look at the Labor website, and sure enough I haven't been able to find anything. I've found rumors on the internet that an employer in Korea can only keep someone for 2 years before they are obligated to make them "permanent employees," whatever that means. I can't see that applying to foreign teachers, since we have to sign a new contract for every year we work.
Is this a complete load of BS, or is my school administration misinterpreting something?
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rowdie3
Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Location: Itaewon, Seoul
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:46 am Post subject: |
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I have been at the same school for four years and am in the process of signing my fifth year contract. Your school is BSing you and doesn't want to tell you that they don't want to resign you. |
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shinraunit
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:50 am Post subject: |
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That makes sense. Even the law were the case, then it would mean that this is something the school already knew about a year ago and thus has no excuse to wait until late November to break the news to me. I'd better step up the job hunt before it gets even later in the year. |
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littlelisa
Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:59 am Post subject: |
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You even have to ask? You know people at the same school who were there for more than 2 years. Also, the director admitted that she got rid of the Korean teacher because they would have had to give her more benefits. There are people at my school who have been here four years and are re-signing, and my school is just like yours.
Tell them that if they don't WANT to re-sign you to just say so and it is fine with you but not to lie.
Edit: You know, it would be fun to point out to the director that next year will be her third year. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:12 am Post subject: |
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There is NO SUCH LAW other than the one made up by your school.
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Skippy

Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:56 am Post subject: |
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I could maybe understand if your school was a Uni or a college. There has been previous problems with some professors and tenure rules. My father had a good uni job but was not resigned because if they did he might be on the tenure track.
But for you school! I think not unless maybe they have you signed up as a contract or temp worker to save on taxes and benefits like pension. But as I know E-2 can not be contract or temp worker. |
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le-paul

Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Location: dans la chambre
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:33 am Post subject: |
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I have more than one friend into thier 3rd/4th years. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:32 am Post subject: |
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My public school district has a fairly firm "policy" (not "law") about duration at one school. After 2 years, your school can give you the boot to transfer. Or if they like you & you want to stay it can be 3 years. Then you gotta move to another school, but seniority buys a choice of openings. Its not a bad system -- change can be good. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:56 am Post subject: |
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schwa wrote: |
My public school district has a fairly firm "policy" (not "law") about duration at one school. After 2 years, your school can give you the boot to transfer. Or if they like you & you want to stay it can be 3 years. Then you gotta move to another school, but seniority buys a choice of openings. Its not a bad system -- change can be good. |
Our school district (and the Gyeonggi POE) has a policy that ALL teachers must move/transfer after 5 years at one school. Under special circumstances that can be extended by 1 year (to 6 years at an individual school).
It is a POE policy and NOT a law.
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:09 am Post subject: Re: 2 year limit for working at the same place? |
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shinraunit wrote: |
Last year my (private) elementary school discharged some Korean ESL teachers on the premise of some "new law" that imposes a 2-year limit on employees, (yet that somehow didn't apply to anyone else, including foreign teachers) We all thought it was BS and was being used to cover up some office-political motivations, but it went through quietly.
Now, myself and another teacher have been approached with this same "two-year limit," saying that the school "wasn't sure" if they'd be able to re-hire us next year. I asked for a copy of this law and my director just said to look at the Labor website, and sure enough I haven't been able to find anything. I've found rumors on the internet that an employer in Korea can only keep someone for 2 years before they are obligated to make them "permanent employees," whatever that means. I can't see that applying to foreign teachers, since we have to sign a new contract for every year we work. |
Do you work in a hagwon or an actual school? It sounds like you work in a hagwon and hagwons tend to pull tricks like you are mentioning.
In schools if a Korean teachers is under contract, 2-3 years is the limit before they have to either hire full-time, or get rid of that teacher. This doesn't apply to foreign NET's though. |
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littlelisa
Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:10 am Post subject: |
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It's a private elementary school, not a hagwon or a public school. I worked there last year. |
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WadRUG'naDoo
Joined: 15 Jun 2010 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:38 am Post subject: |
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Well, there's definitely no law saying they have to re-sign you. I guess they don't want to hire you on for another year or more. |
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Confused Canadian

Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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There IS a 2-year part-time workers law, that means that after two years of working as a part time worker, the company either has to make your a full time employee or let you go.
HOWEVER, it does NOT apply to E1, E2, or even F2 visa holders, because those visas must be renewed. It only applies to F5 visa holders and Korean citizens, so unless the OP is an F5 visa holder, the law does not apply in this case. |
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lowpo
Joined: 01 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Confused Canadian wrote: |
There IS a 2-year part-time workers law, that means that after two years of working as a part time worker, the company either has to make your a full time employee or let you go.
HOWEVER, it does NOT apply to E1, E2, or even F2 visa holders, because those visas must be renewed. It only applies to F5 visa holders and Korean citizens, so unless the OP is an F5 visa holder, the law does not apply in this case. |
I'm working on my 5th year at the same public school. The local BOE told my school that I have to transfer after this year. They think that I have been at the same school to long.
Right now my school is fighting the BOE on me leaving. |
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