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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 7:36 am    Post subject: Edible plants in Korea Reply with quote

I suspect Dr. Buck might be the only one that knows the answer to this...
I'm looking for the names of plants one can eat in Korea, ones that are often seen on the road. Korean or English names would be fine; I want to know the names so that I can bring up the pictures and hopefully identify them myself.
I've actually got a book on plants in Korea but it's huuuuuuuge and has no index so there's really no way to look up plants except going
one
by
one
through all of them and that's no fun...
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Dr. Buck



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Land of the Morning Clam

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know of a few that I can identify in the field. The most common one is mugwort and its a ditchweed that grows everywhere. The Korean name is "sook," and if you dry the stuff out and burn it, it might remind you of a different kind of weed . . .

I've come across wild strawberries and raspberries--they are pretty common, and another time I found a mulberry tree and my wife and I picked a bunch for ice cream later.

There's both poisonous and edible mushrooms out there but you have to be careful if you know what I mean.

There's some different trees that produce various fruits and nuts--down where I live you can't walk five feet without stepping on a spiky chestnut.

Mithridates--use your Korean speaking skills and approach one of the old grandmas that you sometimes see out on the mountainside. They are out there hunched over and gathering various herbs and such and they could show you first hand how to identify the plant, the Korean name, along with where to find it.

Check out "wildcrafting." Google it. Same kind of stuff.

I'm a bit divided on the subject. Being able to identify and have a knowledge of edible plants is satisfying to know, along with their harvest, it's rewarding to eat some healthy greens that you picked yourself.

However there is the matter of over-harvesting such as the case with wild ginseng in Korea. It's near extinct because everyone hunted it down. It's related to the cultural mindset of han-yak traditional medicine: the voodoo snake-oil holistic garbage that has led to the extinction of many plants and animals in Asia.
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Jensen



Joined: 30 Mar 2003
Location: hippie hell

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something to keep in mind is that there are cases of Korean immigrants in the US, some of them old harmonis with a lot of experience, getting poisoned by wild greens, mushrooms, etc.. Apparently there are a number of plants and shrooms that look the same as what's in Korea, but the US variants happen to be deadly. My wife likes to pick wild greens, which is kind of cool...miner's lettuce, dandelion greens, whatever, but it's kinda scare because she'll try anything, she insists she can tell if something's "bad" by tasting it.
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Mashimaro



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can eat any plant if you smother it in chilli paste! Smile
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mithridates



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks...I thought you would know. Ever heard of a guy named Blaine Andrussek? He used to come to our high school every once in a while, give speeches on herbs and aromatherapy and the like; he spent a winter up in northern Saskatchewan living off the land and gained ten pounds while he was at it, but he's amazing when it comes to those things.
I remember hiking once in a place with a lot of wild strawberries. They looked similar but had pretty much no taste and my friend told me that I would get a sore stomach if I ate too many.
That approaching the grandmas idea is quite a good one too.
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captain kirk



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A month ago I saw cars offside country highways and their drivers off kneeling at embankments foraging with paring knives and plastic bags. Later, at the farmers market in town I bought a kilo of the plant for two thousand won. The head Korean teacher at work said it's like sage, and used in soup.
Another Spring thing is the budding of a certain tree. Which looks succelent like 'fiddleheads', the rolled up 'about to unfold' bits of ferns. They are like 'crowns', these budding severed tree bits.
I've seen what looks like the 'young-guy' fungus growing wild in the forest. It is reddish brown and grows on deadwood. 'Looks like'. Don't know for sure.
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Corporal



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jensen wrote:
but it's kinda scare because she'll try anything, she insists she can tell if something's "bad" by tasting it.


Well, she stayed with you though didn't she? Laughing

Just funnin'.
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Jensen



Joined: 30 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corporal wrote:
Jensen wrote:
but it's kinda scare because she'll try anything, she insists she can tell if something's "bad" by tasting it.


Well, she stayed with you though didn't she? Laughing

Just funnin'.


That's what worries me...only woman around loony enough to shack up with me, be just my luck if she went out and pizened her fool self. Very Happy

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Not to be the voice of doom, but ye that eat weeds BEWARE Very Happy

clipped from: Into the Wild review
http://outside.away.com/magazine/0193/9301fdea.html

OT, but I think I met McCandles in the early '90s in the mountains near Provo, UT...interesting guy, it's a shame what happened to him in AK:


...His journal entry for that date reads, "Extremely weak. Fault of pot[ato] seed. Much trouble just to stand up. Starving. Great Jeopardy." McCandless had been digging and eating the root of the wild potato--Hedysarum alpinum, a common area wildflower also known as Eskimo potato, which Kari's book told him was widely eaten by native Alaskans--for more than a month without ill effect. On July 14 he apparently started eating the pealike seedpods of the plant as well, again without ill effect. There is, however, a closely related plant--wild sweet pea, Hedysarum mackenzii--that is very difficult to distinguish from wild potato, grows beside it, and is poisonous. In all likelihood McCandless mistakenly ate some seeds from the wild sweet pea and became gravely ill.

Laid low by the poisonous seeds, he was too weak to hunt effectively and thus slid toward starvation. Things began to spin out of control with terrible speed. "DAY 100! MADE IT!" he noted jubilantly on August 5, proud of achieving such a significant milestone, "but in weakest condition of life. Death looms as serious threat. Too weak to walk out."

Over the next week or so the only game he bagged was five squirrels and a spruce grouse. Many Alaskans have wondered why, at this point, he didn't start a forest fire as a distress signal; small planes fly over the area every few days, they say, and the Park Service would surely have dispatched a crew to control the conflagration. "Chris would never intentionally burn down a forest, not even to save his life," answers Carine McCandless. "Anybody who would suggest otherwise doesn't understand the first thing about my brother."

Starvation is not a pleasant way to die. In advanced stages, as the body begins to consume itself, the victim suffers muscle pain, heart disturbances, loss of hair, shortness of breath. Convulsions and hallucinations are not uncommon. Some who have been brought back from the far edge of starvation, though, report that near the end their suffering was replaced by a sublime euphoria, a sense of calm accompanied by transcendent mental clarity. Perhaps, it would be nice to think, McCandless enjoyed a similar rapture.

From August 13 through 18 his journal records nothing beyond a tally of the days. At some point during this week, he tore the final page from Louis L'Amour's memoir, Education of a Wandering Man. On one side were some lines that L'Amour had quoted from Robinson Jeffers's poem "Wise Men in Their Bad Hours":

Death's a fierce meadowlark: but to die having made
Something more equal to the centuries
Than muscle and bone, is mostly to shed weakness.

On the other side of the page, which was blank, McCandless penned a brief adios: "I have had a happy life and thank the Lord. Goodbye and may God bless all!"

Then he crawled into the sleeping bag his mother had made for him and slipped into unconsciousness. He probably died on August 18, 113 days after he'd walked into the wild, 19 days before six hunters and hikers would happen across the bus and discover his body inside.

One of his last acts was to take a photograph of himself, standing near the bus under the high Alaskan sky, one hand holding his final note toward the camera lens, the other raised in a brave, beatific farewell. He is smiling in the photo, and there is no mistaking the look in his eyes: Chris McCandless was at peace, serene as a monk gone to God.
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Gollum



Joined: 04 Sep 2003
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our high school is at the edge of town and mystudents are always picking outside in the grass between classes -- often eating the stuff they pick. Was told whatever they are picking is some kind of edible plant. Probably that, "sook" stuff someone mentioned.
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Jensen



Joined: 30 Mar 2003
Location: hippie hell

PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gollum wrote:
... "sook"...


Supposed to be good for you. I think it's the flavoring for the green ddok (?). We get it from the Korean grocery here in Portland sometimes and use it in guksu noodles...like you would spinach in pasta noodles.



One plant I used to pick a lot, we have it growing on our place, is bracken (or fiddle-head) fern...kosari. You pick it just as the "little hands" are getting ready to unfold, snap it off at the base. The stem has to be supple or it's too tough to eat, I guess if you have too cold or too dry weather the stems get more fibrous. There's a process of blanching, then drying, then boiling it repeatedly to remove toxins, I've eaten lots of it, but I've heard Koreans say that they won't eat it anymore because of carcinogens, so I stopped too. It tastes great though, adds a meaty taste to spicy soups...and it's still sold in the groceries so it can't be too bad for you, eh Rolling Eyes
http://www.asiafood.org/glossary_1.cfm?alpha=F&wordid=2588&startno=1&endno=25

and more bad news about kosari:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=175558


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Jensen



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Took awhile but I found one of the shroom cases I remembered. Complete article at: http://www.mv.com/ipusers/dhabolt/dad/mushroom/puffball/puffball4/poisonous.html

Quote:
One of the most sensational cases was the local Oregon poisoning of Amanita phalloides that occured October 22, 1988 (see Readers Digest, July 1989, pp. 43-48 ). A Korean woman had picked mushrooms that looked similar to ones that she used to pick as a child in Korea. Isun Pak had mistaken the deadly Amanita phalloides with what she thought were edible Paddy Straw mushrooms (Volvariella volvacea). Out of five people that had eaten these mushrooms one evening, four received liver transplants and will take medication for the rest of their lives, and one was seriously ill, but recovered fully and didn't have to receive a transplant.


edible Paddy Straw mushrooms (Volvariella volvacea):
http://www.ilmyco.gen.chicago.il.us/Taxa/Volvavolva371.html


Amanita phalloides ("death caps"):
http://members.aol.com/basidium/deathcap.html#southeastasia
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masuro



Joined: 22 Apr 2003
Location: Gangwon, Inje-kun, Hanam Village

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

captain kirk wrote:
A month ago I saw cars offside country highways and their drivers off kneeling at embankments foraging with paring knives and plastic bags. Later, at the farmers market in town I bought a kilo of the plant for two thousand won. The head Korean teacher at work said it's like sage, and used in soup.
Another Spring thing is the budding of a certain tree. Which looks succelent like 'fiddleheads', the rolled up 'about to unfold' bits of ferns. They are like 'crowns', these budding severed tree bits.
I've seen what looks like the 'young-guy' fungus growing wild in the forest. It is reddish brown and grows on deadwood. 'Looks like'. Don't know for sure.


It's called dureup �θ� and my dictionary says it's a fatsia tree. We have lots in our garden and they go great with vinegared gochu sauce.
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